Slower Performance during time compession

Probex · 12-20-06, 04:53 AM

I was wondering whether anyone else experienced this issue.

On some occasions after a convoy attack, the high time acceleration performance never restores properly.

I play on 2048x when in transit from one area to another. If there are no ships nearby then the sub movement on the map is very smooth and fast.
When I encounter a convoy the performance drops dramatically (as it should with all the ships around). The problem is, that sometimes the smooth performance NEVER restores after a convoy encounter and I am stuck with a chugging poor motion even at 1024x for the rest of the mission. That really takes the enjoyment away, because I know that it should not be so. Upon starting a new patrol everything is great again.

Rebooting the PC and reloading the game or mission do not help.

I would appreciate some help.

Thanks a lot!

Mooncatt · 12-20-06, 04:57 AM

the only time i get that is if ive used fraps to record a short clip then obviously the fps drops but doesnt restore properly afterwards im not sure what the problem could be tbh so i just stopped using it now.

danlisa · 12-20-06, 05:00 AM

Hello and Welcome

Can I ask if this TC slowdown occurs when ships are sunk in shallow water?

It has been shown that if a ship is sunk in shallow water then the SH3 engine still tracks it's existence.

FYI - cruising around at high TC, whilst quicker, means that you miss a lot of action. I personally only use a TC upto 512 and only when going to America. At all other times nothing above 128.

SilverGhost · 12-20-06, 09:16 AM

After experimenting around, I have found that GWX runs a whole bunch better if you do NOT use SH3Gen to load the superflous map info and "flavor". It's just more stuff that has to be loaded up.

melnibonian · 12-20-06, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverGhost

After experimenting around, I have found that GWX runs a whole bunch better if you do NOT use SH3Gen to load the superflous map info and "flavor". It's just more stuff that has to be loaded up.

I don't know about that. It's a shame if you cannot use SH3Gen as it's an excellent add-on, but I guess playing GWX is number one priority

SilverGhost · 12-20-06, 09:27 AM

Melbonian...load it up (SH3Gen) and note your fps. Then try it again without. I have a custom built system with a 1.5 gig Ram, 7800 GS OC card, and dedicated 80 gig game drive...defragged and clean as can be. I was getting 40 fps with SH3Gen....100+ without it.

melnibonian · 12-20-06, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverGhost

Melbonian...load it up (SH3Gen) and note your fps. Then try it again without. I have a custom built system with a 1.5 gig Ram, 7800 GS OC card, and dedicated 80 gig game drive...defragged and clean as can be. I was getting 40 fps with SH3Gen....100+ without it.

Wow

I never expected to see such a drop in the frame rates due to SH3Gen. Still 40FPS is not that bad actually. I mean the game is functional isn't it? Well close to harbours it might be a bit slower but so far I haven't seen any problems. I have a 3.3GHz with 512MB RAM and 128MB graphics card. Not top class machine but I still have no problems with GWX

Cpt. Stewker · 12-20-06, 10:39 AM

Hmm, I haven't checked the actual performance difference between running SH3 Gen and not with GWX on my comp. I haven't noticed any difference though while playing so that is all that matters for me! Out of sight out of mind.

Athlon 64 X2 4800+
2gb ram
SLI'd 7900GTXs
Raptor HD

FlyinS · 12-20-06, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Probex

I was wondering whether anyone else experienced this issue.

On some occasions after a convoy attack, the high time acceleration performance never restores properly.

I play on 2048x when in transit from one area to another. If there are no ships nearby then the sub movement on the map is very smooth and fast.
When I encounter a convoy the performance drops dramatically (as it should with all the ships around). The problem is, that sometimes the smooth performance NEVER restores after a convoy encounter and I am stuck with a chugging poor motion even at 1024x for the rest of the mission. That really takes the enjoyment away, because I know that it should not be so. Upon starting a new patrol everything is great again.

Rebooting the PC and reloading the game or mission do not help.

I would appreciate some help.

Thanks a lot!

I get exactly the same problem, though mine seems to hit worse. I get reduced basically to 32x TC. Sometimes I can get it up to 64x, but I have to hit the "+" button about 200 times repeatedly just to get it to move up to that, and even at that it's DOG slow. Same scenario for when it occurs as well. I regularily use SH3Gen and I didn't have this issue nearly as much before I started using it, so I'm guessing it's the cause.

Pity, I like SH3Gen a lot.

Hartmann · 12-20-06, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mooncatt

the only time i get that is if ive used fraps to record a short clip then obviously the fps drops but doesnt restore properly afterwards im not sure what the problem could be tbh so i just stopped using it now.

i noticied this in the same situation and with burning ships in shallow waters with my actual setup, a heavy modified Rub 1.45.

Jimbuna · 12-20-06, 04:34 PM

Welcome aboard Probex

What spec is your rig ?...in particular CPU...Graphics...Ram

Grell · 12-20-06, 04:43 PM

I get this problem on some occasions but for the most part I can play smooth at maximum time compression.

Regards,

Grell

IRONxMortlock · 12-20-06, 05:24 PM

I get an issue similar to this and I don't use SH3Gen. Just GWX and Commander 2.7.
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FIND DISPENSARY

andy_311 · 12-20-06, 08:33 PM

I noticed this problem with me on my second patrol but it only occured after I sunk a few ships and then tried to TC at 4098 and my pc just slowed down I had to drop the tc to 256.

Probex · 12-21-06, 07:59 PM

Thanks for all the replies.

If the game was still tracking a sunk ship or two then this is exactly how it would affect the performance.

I am running GWX on a clean install and SH3 Commander 2.7.

AMD64 3200+
2x6800GT in SLI
2GB 400 DDR RAM

I am sure that the rig is not the reason why this happens since it happens only sometimes and under a particular set of circumstances. I also run many other demanding games without any problems.

In light of the guess about lingering wrecks, would there be a way to manually FIX the saved campaign file and remove them?? Perhaps some of the modders have an idea?

Thanks in advance!

S!

12-20-06, 04:53 AM	#1
Probex Soundman Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 148 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Slower Performance during time compession I was wondering whether anyone else experienced this issue. On some occasions after a convoy attack, the high time acceleration performance never restores properly. I play on 2048x when in transit from one area to another. If there are no ships nearby then the sub movement on the map is very smooth and fast. When I encounter a convoy the performance drops dramatically (as it should with all the ships around). The problem is, that sometimes the smooth performance NEVER restores after a convoy encounter and I am stuck with a chugging poor motion even at 1024x for the rest of the mission. That really takes the enjoyment away, because I know that it should not be so. Upon starting a new patrol everything is great again. Rebooting the PC and reloading the game or mission do not help. I would appreciate some help. Thanks a lot!

12-20-06, 04:57 AM	#2
Mooncatt Grey Wolf Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Keighley UK Posts: 938 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	the only time i get that is if ive used fraps to record a short clip then obviously the fps drops but doesnt restore properly afterwards im not sure what the problem could be tbh so i just stopped using it now. __________________

12-20-06, 05:00 AM	#3
danlisa Navy Seal Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cornwall, UK Posts: 5,499 Downloads: 45 Uploads: 1	Hello and Welcome Can I ask if this TC slowdown occurs when ships are sunk in shallow water? It has been shown that if a ship is sunk in shallow water then the SH3 engine still tracks it's existence. FYI - cruising around at high TC, whilst quicker, means that you miss a lot of action. I personally only use a TC upto 512 and only when going to America. At all other times nothing above 128. __________________

12-20-06, 10:39 AM	#8
Cpt. Stewker Planesman Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bozeman, Montana, USA Posts: 192 Downloads: 2 Uploads: 0	Hmm, I haven't checked the actual performance difference between running SH3 Gen and not with GWX on my comp. I haven't noticed any difference though while playing so that is all that matters for me! Out of sight out of mind. Athlon 64 X2 4800+ 2gb ram SLI'd 7900GTXs Raptor HD __________________

12-20-06, 04:34 PM	#11
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Welcome aboard Probex What spec is your rig ?...in particular CPU...Graphics...Ram __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

12-20-06, 09:16 AM	#4
SilverGhost Electrician's Mate Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 131 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	After experimenting around, I have found that GWX runs a whole bunch better if you do NOT use SH3Gen to load the superflous map info and "flavor". It's just more stuff that has to be loaded up.

12-20-06, 09:27 AM	#6
SilverGhost Electrician's Mate Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Melbourne, FL Posts: 131 Downloads: 39 Uploads: 0	Melbonian...load it up (SH3Gen) and note your fps. Then try it again without. I have a custom built system with a 1.5 gig Ram, 7800 GS OC card, and dedicated 80 gig game drive...defragged and clean as can be. I was getting 40 fps with SH3Gen....100+ without it.

12-20-06, 04:43 PM	#12
Grell Mate Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 59 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I get this problem on some occasions but for the most part I can play smooth at maximum time compression. Regards, Grell

12-20-06, 05:24 PM	#13
IRONxMortlock Watch Officer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Queensland, Australia Posts: 339 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	I get an issue similar to this and I don't use SH3Gen. Just GWX and Commander 2.7. ________ FIND DISPENSARY Last edited by IRONxMortlock; 08-14-11 at 02:23 PM.

12-20-06, 08:33 PM	#14
andy_311 The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oldham, Lancs,England Posts: 1,312 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	I noticed this problem with me on my second patrol but it only occured after I sunk a few ships and then tried to TC at 4098 and my pc just slowed down I had to drop the tc to 256.

12-21-06, 07:59 PM	#15
Probex Soundman Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 148 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Thanks for all the replies. If the game was still tracking a sunk ship or two then this is exactly how it would affect the performance. I am running GWX on a clean install and SH3 Commander 2.7. AMD64 3200+ 2x6800GT in SLI 2GB 400 DDR RAM I am sure that the rig is not the reason why this happens since it happens only sometimes and under a particular set of circumstances. I also run many other demanding games without any problems. In light of the guess about lingering wrecks, would there be a way to manually FIX the saved campaign file and remove them?? Perhaps some of the modders have an idea? Thanks in advance! S!