SH4 On Steam

Red Devil · 02-24-23, 10:25 AM

I have been playing SH4 for eons from disc. But am wondering if its time to move to Steam Version as it may be more up to date but:

Q: Can I still use JSGME with the steam version???

KaleunMarco · 02-24-23, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Devil

I have been playing SH4 for eons from disc. But am wondering if its time to move to Steam Version as it may be more up to date but:

Q: Can I still use JSGME with the steam version???

what version of SH4 is on your CDROM/DVD?

Red Devil · 02-24-23, 12:44 PM

ouch. on the cd booklet, closing date for some competition is 27/10/2005 30/06/07. Box says win XP. Unknown but not original, as I damaged that and bought this from Focus Multimedia. I'd guess at 2007. 1.1 comes to mind.

propbeanie · 02-24-23, 02:06 PM

You could either do the Steam version, or the Ubisoft version.

https://store.ubi.com/us/game/?lang=...&source=detail

both will watch the other's pricing, and they usually stay competitive with each other in that regard, sometimes going down to $3 a copy...

It would be much much easier doing the Gold Edition that way, than having to attempt to apply all the updates and patches, and still having to contact Ubisoft for your U-Boat Add-On authorization every five installs...

Red Devil · 02-24-23, 05:09 PM

I bought SH4 a while back on steam, it just sits there in the library. The main query is will JSGME work with it

KaleunMarco · 02-24-23, 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Devil

ouch. on the cd booklet, closing date for some competition is 27/10/2005 30/06/07. Box says win XP. Unknown but not original, as I damaged that and bought this from Focus Multimedia. I'd guess at 2007. 1.1 comes to mind.

lol.
yeah, i'd say that you are probably due for some kind of upgrade.
make the best deal you can make to get to 1.5 Uboat Missions.
good luck, my friend!

propbeanie · 02-24-23, 09:44 PM

Ahhh... first post didn't say you already had Steam...

But yes, you can use JSGME, it will work fine with the Steam version. After all, the JSGME stands for "JoneSoft Generic Mod Enabler". It will work with a lot of games, especially the older ones -BUT- do not put the game itself into a "Program Files" folder, still. Steam can present additional problems with its Steam Library folder paradigm. See Moving a Steam Installation and Games for some background. You have to set the path to a folder of your own making while installing Steam, if you only have one hard drive... The Steam version can usually be copied to other game folders just as easily as other version, so that you can use multiple mods while using MultiSH4 and a unique Save folder name with each.

Red Devil · 02-25-23, 09:31 AM

Kaleun - I will never never take command of a uboat. I have dozens of pages on a site dedicated to those brave sailors and also their hunters. I respect them but will NEVER sink of one my own ships, not even in a simulation. Which is why I have never passed SH4

Prop: I have a steam library file on an SSD 5TB external drive. I can put Steam SH4 in there along with JSGME.

Red Devil · 02-25-23, 09:46 AM

Update: I have SH4 now in k:/Steam Library/Common/ I opened it, it ran and - all the saves are copied from the disk ver on another drive?? Wonders what will happen if I delete the disk game???? Ran game - all loads failed. Better get the vacuum out methinks.

1Patriotofmany · 02-25-23, 10:26 AM

Absolutely works fine. I would uninstall the disk version completely including the SH4 folder in your documents folder which doesn't automatically get uninstalled.

propbeanie · 02-25-23, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Devil

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Prop: I have a steam library file on an SSD 5TB external drive. I can put Steam SH4 in there along with JSGME.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Red Devil

Update: I have SH4 now in k:/Steam Library/Common/ I opened it, it ran and - all the saves are copied from the disk ver on another drive?? Wonders what will happen if I delete the disk game???? Ran game - all loads failed. Better get the vacuum out methinks.

That will work from the SSD rather well for the Steam version. However, in your second quote there, you cannot use old Save files. The ones for the disk version of the game point to specific locations on your original install, and when you are using the Steam version, you have a different folder structure. Instant load failure when attempting any of those Saves. Everything must be EXACTLY the same. You can have both version on the same computer, no problem, but they must each have their own Save folders. So download MultiSH4 and put it in each of the game folders. Run it (especially in the "new" Steam version), and enter a new 3-character Save folder name, such as TMO if you're going to run TMO, or FRS for FotRSU, or whatever you like, such as 001 or whatever. That will keep the Save folder structures between the two versions of the game away from each other.

KaleunMarco · 02-25-23, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Devil

Kaleun - I will never never take command of a uboat.

i was referring to the version of SH4 not the actual uboats.
"SH4 with the Uboat missions" is version 1.5 which is the version most compatible with the modsets that are discussed here.

Red Devil · 02-25-23, 11:07 AM

Roger that Kal. At present I am working on personal setting in cfg and trying to get coloured map with small anchors, the ones on mine are huge. Maybe if I steal shaders, textures etc from disk ver and drag and drop??? I might try that in a moment.

Ack Prop - I will come back to your post soonest.

Edit: I have found the map I wanted, I know its only eye candy, but it suits the game far better, except, the active/inactive ports no longer show.

Nav Map Make-Over v2.1 (18.17 MB)

propbeanie · 02-26-23, 10:53 AM

SH4 v1.5 is what removed the ports changing colors as time advances and they change "sides"...

Red Devil · 02-26-23, 10:55 AM

cheers prop

02-24-23, 10:25 AM	#1
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	SH4 On Steam I have been playing SH4 for eons from disc. But am wondering if its time to move to Steam Version as it may be more up to date but: Q: Can I still use JSGME with the steam version??? __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

02-24-23, 12:44 PM	#3
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	ouch. on the cd booklet, closing date for some competition is 27/10/2005 30/06/07. Box says win XP. Unknown but not original, as I damaged that and bought this from Focus Multimedia. I'd guess at 2007. 1.1 comes to mind. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

02-24-23, 02:06 PM	#4
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	You could either do the Steam version, or the Ubisoft version. https://store.ubi.com/us/game/?lang=...&source=detail both will watch the other's pricing, and they usually stay competitive with each other in that regard, sometimes going down to $3 a copy... It would be much much easier doing the Gold Edition that way, than having to attempt to apply all the updates and patches, and still having to contact Ubisoft for your U-Boat Add-On authorization every five installs... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

02-24-23, 05:09 PM	#5
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	I bought SH4 a while back on steam, it just sits there in the library. The main query is will JSGME work with it __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

02-24-23, 09:44 PM	#7
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	Ahhh... first post didn't say you already had Steam... But yes, you can use JSGME, it will work fine with the Steam version. After all, the JSGME stands for "JoneSoft Generic Mod Enabler". It will work with a lot of games, especially the older ones -BUT- do not put the game itself into a "Program Files" folder, still. Steam can present additional problems with its Steam Library folder paradigm. See Moving a Steam Installation and Games for some background. You have to set the path to a folder of your own making while installing Steam, if you only have one hard drive... The Steam version can usually be copied to other game folders just as easily as other version, so that you can use multiple mods while using MultiSH4 and a unique Save folder name with each. __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

02-25-23, 09:31 AM	#8
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	Kaleun - I will never never take command of a uboat. I have dozens of pages on a site dedicated to those brave sailors and also their hunters. I respect them but will NEVER sink of one my own ships, not even in a simulation. Which is why I have never passed SH4 Prop: I have a steam library file on an SSD 5TB external drive. I can put Steam SH4 in there along with JSGME. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

02-25-23, 09:46 AM	#9
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	Update: I have SH4 now in k:/Steam Library/Common/ I opened it, it ran and - all the saves are copied from the disk ver on another drive?? Wonders what will happen if I delete the disk game???? Ran game - all loads failed. Better get the vacuum out methinks. __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk

02-25-23, 10:26 AM	#10
1Patriotofmany Samurai Navy Join Date: Jul 2017 Posts: 574 Downloads: 111 Uploads: 0	Absolutely works fine. I would uninstall the disk version completely including the SH4 folder in your documents folder which doesn't automatically get uninstalled.

02-25-23, 11:07 AM	#13
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	Roger that Kal. At present I am working on personal setting in cfg and trying to get coloured map with small anchors, the ones on mine are huge. Maybe if I steal shaders, textures etc from disk ver and drag and drop??? I might try that in a moment. Ack Prop - I will come back to your post soonest. Edit: I have found the map I wanted, I know its only eye candy, but it suits the game far better, except, the active/inactive ports no longer show. Nav Map Make-Over v2.1 (18.17 MB) __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk Last edited by Red Devil; 02-25-23 at 11:30 AM.

02-26-23, 10:53 AM	#14
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 10,098 Downloads: 451 Uploads: 2	SH4 v1.5 is what removed the ports changing colors as time advances and they change "sides"... __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayers" - Jimbuna

02-26-23, 10:55 AM	#15
Red Devil The Old Man Join Date: May 2004 Location: Sutton Coldfield England Posts: 1,540 Downloads: 305 Uploads: 0	cheers prop __________________ > > Captain!, there's a destroyer on the por........ periscope is flooded Sir! > Darkness is only the absence of Light; Ignorance is only the absence of knowledge © www.worldwartwo.uk www.captainwalker.uk