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Is that realistic? Perhaps there is a mod that makes the underwater more foggy? |
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No it's not. The obs scope was the best one to use at night. I am trying to darken the attack scope so it is near useless at night.
At one time the best way to attack a ship was at night on the surface only.
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Could someone make a mod for that? I guess just increasing a lot the fog in underwater view should do it.
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And the view limit is small enough already that you can't see anything useful as it is. Maybe mines, but by the time you actually see one, it's probably too late anyways. |
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I think Victoria/Upholder class submarines have conning tower windows
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GLOBAL MODDING TERRORIST
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They were 1970's era subs.
What do they have to do with SH3? |
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According to Edward L Beach (author of RUN SILENT RUN DEEP) the US S-class subs had a conning tower that was nothing more than an oversized escape trunk - there was a small desk for the navigator and two small viewports, 2 inch thick glass. They were eliminated in the fleet boats mainly because you couldn't see squat below 30 feet, not to mention having a weak point. In the S class it didn't matter much since they had riveted instead of welded hulls, with a test depth of 200 feet. The biggest problem deeper than 100 feet or so isn't the murk, it's the lack of light - pitch black even on sunny days. CDR Beach did mention he enjoyed staying in the conning tower during dives to watch the water coming up the viewports, but he would go down to the control room and shut the lower conning tower hatch when it was too dark to see outside. The conning tower wasn't flooded when the S-boat was submerged, but the lower hatch was generally shut anyway since there was nothing up there.
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According to Clay Blair's account, Hitler's U-boat war, he states..."early submarines had glass portholes in the conning tower, enabling the boat to be steered or conned, on the surface from this elevated space. However, glass portholes cannot withstand the shock of depth charge explosions and had been eliminated. While traveling on the surface, the boat was actually conned from the bridge above the conning tower."
Later on, the screens were provided so that the watch officers wouldn't have to deal repeatedly with getting salt water splashed in their faces.
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When I said "later on, screens were provided", I meant by the time the nuclear submarine age had arrived. There were no 'windscreen upgrades' to any WWII submarine that I am aware of.
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