North Korea sentences U.S. student to hard labor;Washington condemns punishment - Page 2

AVGWarhawk · 03-17-16, 12:19 PM

Hot spot destinations on my list does not and will never include North Korea.

I think the penalty is way out of line. Then again, he was not put in front a firing squad. That is always a possibility.

Aktungbby · 03-17-16, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Bera

Unfortunately, no. He will probably die doing soviet-style hard labour, like mining or cutting logs.

Kudos to Bill Clinton. He went to North Corea and came back with those two american girls that were convicted some years ago. I think he deserved a prize or a medal for this.

Wait a bit: President Hillary will send her Bubba on just such another good-will trip just to keep him outta the oval office!

Bera · 03-17-16, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Aktungbby

Wait a bit: President Hillary will send her Bubba on just such another good-will trip just to keep him outta the oval office!

Well, I hope the kid doesn´t starve to death until Hillary is in Office!

GoldenRivet · 03-17-16, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

Really?
He deserves 15 years of hard labor in a country that hates him and ultimately will ruin his life one way or another, because he is an idiot who underestimated what could happen and stole a stupid banner?

Well, with due respect, I present you with a challenge, it's very simple:

1. Quote here where I used the term "he deserves it"

2. Quote here where I said I think the punishment is harsh

3. Quote here where I said that it is now up to diplomats to fix it

Then re-evaluate your comment

03-17-16, 02:25 PM

You said you have "very little sympathy" for him.
I interpreted it as in "well deserved idiot!".
My bad.

GoldenRivet · 03-17-16, 02:39 PM

I have little sympathy for the guy. This much is true. I really don't.

The guy went to a foreign country known for its harsh hand at criminal justice and he showed his ass. That's his fault. Nobody else's. Does he "deserve" 15 years hard labor? Like I said, no.

Was he an idiot who has created an international diplomatic mess? Yup!

he deserves punishment, not 15 years, but theft of any kind, no matter how cute and jovial the circumstances may be perceived by the perpetrator, is still theft.

He acted without any thought as to the consequences. This is his fault. Nobody else's.

Dowly · 03-17-16, 02:41 PM

I agree with GR. I see the guy as the same as those idiots who go sailing near the Somali coast and then get captured by pirates. I just don't get it.

03-17-16, 02:48 PM

I agree, as I said, I completely misunderstood that one line.
Haven't slept in a while, sorry.

GoldenRivet · 03-17-16, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Nippelspanner

I agree, as I said, I completely misunderstood that one line.
Haven't slept in a while, sorry.

all good my man

GT182 · 03-17-16, 03:16 PM

Didn't he try to steal a Government banner hanging somewhere he wasn't supposed to be? I thought I'd heard it was in a government building.

I have no sympathy for him at all. You don't try and steal something... anything.... in a foreign country that hates the US of A. Especially N. Korea where our government says NOT to go. Maybe 15 years is too harsh but he still deserves punishment. It could have been far worse. Like relative and Generals in front of a firing squad for doing far less than he did. Seeing where he's stuck for a long while I'd say he's very lucky to be alive..... if he survives their hard labor.

I bet that when he gets out he won't be going back to that church, or "that someone's house".

Platapus · 03-17-16, 05:02 PM

The good news is that he probably won't serve more than a few years. The bad news is that our government will have to go over and save his sorry butt and you can just bet this will effect some of the negotiations that are ongoing.

I wonder if there will come a point when our government decides to make an example?

I truly do not understand why any American would want to visit NK.

I don't think they like us much.

GoldenRivet · 03-17-16, 05:09 PM

not only that platapus but the meat it has provided for their propaganda machine. You know that Kim Jong Un is probably watching replay after replay of this crying, pitiful American man boy and televising that footage over and over again likely citing that this is how all Americans are.

mapuc · 03-17-16, 05:12 PM

For some of the candidate in the American Presidential election this could perhaps not have come more perfect
(not the word I had in mind, but I forgot it)

Maybe we will See some of the candidate do a "Jesse" and get him free and thereby earn some extra votes

Markus

Platapus · 03-17-16, 05:23 PM

Just like those idiots who were hiking and got lost in Iran.

People need to understand how their actions can adversely affect their country.

It is not just about them.

Cybermat47 · 03-17-16, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Hot spot destinations on my list does not and will never include North Korea.

I think the penalty is way out of line. Then again, he was not put in front a firing squad. That is always a possibility.

I think he would prefer a firing squad... North Korean prisons can be summed up with three words.

Rape is legal.

03-17-16, 12:19 PM	#16
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,280 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Hot spot destinations on my list does not and will never include North Korea. I think the penalty is way out of line. Then again, he was not put in front a firing squad. That is always a possibility. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

03-17-16, 02:39 PM	#21
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	I have little sympathy for the guy. This much is true. I really don't. The guy went to a foreign country known for its harsh hand at criminal justice and he showed his ass. That's his fault. Nobody else's. Does he "deserve" 15 years hard labor? Like I said, no. Was he an idiot who has created an international diplomatic mess? Yup! he deserves punishment, not 15 years, but theft of any kind, no matter how cute and jovial the circumstances may be perceived by the perpetrator, is still theft. He acted without any thought as to the consequences. This is his fault. Nobody else's. __________________

03-17-16, 03:16 PM	#25
GT182 Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: New Castle of Delaware Posts: 3,231 Downloads: 658 Uploads: 0	Didn't he try to steal a Government banner hanging somewhere he wasn't supposed to be? I thought I'd heard it was in a government building. I have no sympathy for him at all. You don't try and steal something... anything.... in a foreign country that hates the US of A. Especially N. Korea where our government says NOT to go. Maybe 15 years is too harsh but he still deserves punishment. It could have been far worse. Like relative and Generals in front of a firing squad for doing far less than he did. Seeing where he's stuck for a long while I'd say he's very lucky to be alive..... if he survives their hard labor. I bet that when he gets out he won't be going back to that church, or "that someone's house". __________________ Gary No Borders, No Language, No Culture =s No Country I'm a Deplorable, and proud of it.

03-17-16, 05:02 PM	#26
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,381 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	The good news is that he probably won't serve more than a few years. The bad news is that our government will have to go over and save his sorry butt and you can just bet this will effect some of the negotiations that are ongoing. I wonder if there will come a point when our government decides to make an example? I truly do not understand why any American would want to visit NK. I don't think they like us much. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

03-17-16, 05:09 PM	#27
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	not only that platapus but the meat it has provided for their propaganda machine. You know that Kim Jong Un is probably watching replay after replay of this crying, pitiful American man boy and televising that footage over and over again likely citing that this is how all Americans are. __________________

03-17-16, 02:25 PM	#20
Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	You said you have "very little sympathy" for him. I interpreted it as in "well deserved idiot!". My bad.

03-17-16, 02:41 PM	#22
Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,054 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	I agree with GR. I see the guy as the same as those idiots who go sailing near the Somali coast and then get captured by pirates. I just don't get it.

03-17-16, 02:48 PM	#23
Nippelspanner Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I agree, as I said, I completely misunderstood that one line. Haven't slept in a while, sorry.

03-17-16, 05:12 PM	#28
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,543 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	For some of the candidate in the American Presidential election this could perhaps not have come more perfect (not the word I had in mind, but I forgot it) Maybe we will See some of the candidate do a "Jesse" and get him free and thereby earn some extra votes Markus

03-17-16, 05:23 PM	#29
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,381 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	Just like those idiots who were hiking and got lost in Iran. People need to understand how their actions can adversely affect their country. It is not just about them. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.