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Old 12-08-15, 06:10 PM   #1
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hattemagermester. something to do with a position in a family or employment?
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Old 12-08-15, 06:33 PM   #2
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I only know it as a person's name.
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Old 12-08-15, 06:39 PM   #3
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'Master hat maker' I think. Danish?
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Old 12-08-15, 06:53 PM   #4
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Yeah, it does look to be Danish and a hat maker of sorts.
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Old 12-08-15, 06:58 PM   #5
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'Master hat maker' I think. Danish?

Norwegian, as used at http://www.rhd.uit.no/indexeng.html

still trying to dredge up ancestry and ran across the above word. almost impossible task when searching frozen patronymic surnames and people who lived where surnames didnt become compulsary until 1923.

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Old 12-08-15, 08:05 PM   #6
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Norwegian, as used at http://www.rhd.uit.no/indexeng.html

still trying to dredge up ancestry and ran across the above word. almost impossible task when searching frozen patronymic surnames and people who lived where surnames didnt become compulsary until 1923.

In German it would be hattemagermester=" had skimmed mester "which doesn't make sense either and probably has nothing to do with ancestry. I'm sure that wasn't much help.
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Old 12-09-15, 12:17 AM   #7
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Default skilled or masterhatmaker

Well it seem'd Danish and hat related and a skilled position.... http://cphmade.org/members/andersen-berner ( Denmark's last hatmaker; good stuff-very pricy) and under https://familysearch.org/learn/wiki/en/images/0/0b/Danish_Genealogical_Word_List_October_2010.pdf we get 'hattemager' ie hatmaker and 'mester' or 'master'(trade) I rest my case (I collect hats-don't have any Danish ones though)
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Old 12-09-15, 06:12 AM   #8
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hattemagermester. something to do with a position in a family or employment?
If that is Norwegian then 'hatte' could refer to 'hat' which according to dictionary is 'hatt' in Norwegian. 'Master' would have roughly similar meaning as in English, but that 'mager' is interesting. Dictionary gives gives four options 'meager', 'lean', 'skinny' and 'magus'...

Ofcourse it maybe phrase which have very own meaning or then dictionary is incomplete...

EDIT: One little question: How old that source is from where that word comes from? Meanings and spelling change over time. For example word 'blå' today means 'blue' but once upon a time it (and English work 'blue') also meant 'dark'. Also once upon a time 'beige' was referred as shade of gray rather than colour of its own.
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Old 12-09-15, 09:53 AM   #9
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It's a job description.

Hattemager/Hattemaker is a hat maker.

The mester is the skilled, master craftman - after his examination for the master's certificate.

In the guilds you had to learn as an apprentice (commonly three years) to become a fellow - and after some years earning enough money to pay the guild for the examination, you could become a master.

The system ensured the regulation of the local competition.
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