Europe's migrant problem

[Fahnenbohn]

Originally Posted by Skybird

That is why the EU with its uniform and centrlaised, totalitarian, neo-feudal ambition, and "Europe", are not just two totally different things, but indeed are antagonistic to each other. You cannot be for Europe while wanting a strong EU. If you want a stroing EU, you destroy what Europe is: a plural, a group, not one uniformed, collective actor imposing his will on all subordinate entities.

I totally agree.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

You are not able to understand, you are too much brainwashed by TV and school ...

Sorry to say that but you can't change your mind, because you are terrified by the allied war propaganda against Germany.

When I said concentration camps, it was not serious from me. But I expected your reactions. Very concluding ... Pavlovian reflex .... nazi, hate, (not complotist too ? lol) and blablabla ...

And last word : we are not speaking about "thousands" people, but several millions people ! So, stopping this invasion is self-defense. OK ?

We (as in you and I) have recently been down this 'denial' (or whatever you choose to call it) route just recently.

I won't be issuing any further warnings....and that is serious from me.

[Fahnenbohn]

Do you have any political pressures ? Oho, Big Brother is watching me ...

[Betonov]

Don't be too hard on him Jim.
In this day and age being in denial means you're right

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

Do you have any political pressures ? Oho, Big Brother is watching me ...

Pretty hard not to, you bring the attention upon yourself with some of the subjective comments you post.

Kindly refrain if you would be so kind.

[Fahnenbohn]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

Kindly refrain if you would be so kind.

Oh, so we're not in the country of Liberty ?

@ Oberon : Laugh my friend, it's good for health !

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Fahnenbohn

Oh, so we're not in the country of Liberty ?

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[Fahnenbohn]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

It is expected that all members of this community adhere to said set of rules.

Ok, I'll respect your taboo in your home, Grand Chief.

After all, it's true that the course of the last world war did very little honor to the Allied camp. So, I can understand that you prefer not to talk about.

[Betonov]

The flow of refugees has somewhat slowed down. Compared to previous days.

Temperatures are expected to drop below 0 this night.

Policemen have been given free psychological counseling by profesionals if they choose they need it.

The financial department (furs), slovene equivalent to the IRS, has relegated 120 officials to augment the police at paperwork and registration.

260 unemployed volunteers will be given temporary jobs as clean up and logistics help at the affected areas.

Police numbers on the total migrant inflow
date persons


No incidents reported.

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Oberon

On a more serious note, I think things are going to take a turn for the worse soon, we're on the cusp of winter and these people are not going to be that well prepared for it. I wonder how many will die of the cold this year?

Red cross is in full force in the field trying to clothe them. But winter clothes are not enough, heated tents will have to be brought in and the Slovene army doesn't have enough of them. Brussels will have to jump in on this one and if anyone dies from cold it's NOT going to be OUR fault.
I'm surprised we are coping this well. I mean kudos to the police.
Even our goverment send a stern message to Brussels they will need to move their behinds.

[eddie]

What I am wondering is, it wasn't that long ago when there were riots in different cities in France, mostly by Arab youth IIRC. If housing and jobs for these folks can't be found fast enough, could this cause major problems across Europe? I hope these folks have patience enough to know, that everything they seek, won't come over night, that this will take some time.

[Skybird]

Demographic warfare today:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...overnment.html

Well. Compare.

“One day, millions of men will leave the Southern Hemisphere to go to the Northern Hemisphere. And they will not go there as friends. Because they will go there to conquer it. And they will conquer it with their sons. The wombs of our women will give us victory.”
– Houari (Mohamed) Boumedienne, President of Algeria, 1965 – 1978, in a 1974 speech at the UN


"There are signs that Allah will grant victory to Islam in Europe without swords, without guns, without conquest. we don't need terrorists, we don't need homicide bombers. The 50+ million Muslims [in Europe] will turn it into a Muslim continent within a few decades."
− Muammar Gaddafi

"Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran . . . should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth."
− Ohmar Ahmad, co-founder of CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations)


"Islam makes it incumbent on all adult males, provided they are not disabled and incapacitated, to prepare themselves for the conquest of [other] countries so that the writ of Islam is obeyed in every country in the world. "
− Ayatollah Khomeini


"Have no doubt... Allah willing, Islam will conquer what? It will conquer all the mountain tops of the world."
− Mahmoud Ahmadinejad


“I wouldn't want to create the impression that I wouldn't like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future. But I'm not going to do anything violent to promote that. I'm going to do it through education.”
− Ibrahim Hooper, Communications Director, CAIR (Council on Armerican Islamic Relations)


“The whole of Europe will become Islamic. Like the army of the sultan we will conquer Rome.”
− Former Turkish Prime Minister Necmettin Erbakan, June 2002


"Today, Rome is the capital of the Catholics, or the Crusader capital, which has declared its hostility to Islam, and has planted the brothers of apes and pigs in Palestine in order to prevent the reawakening of Islam. This capital of theirs will be an advanced post for the Islamic conquests, which will spread through Europe in its entirety, and then will turn to the two Americas, and even Eastern Europe."
− Yunis Al-Astal, Hamas MP and cleric


"We will control the land of the Vatican; we will control Rome and introduce Islam in it."
− Sheikh Muhammad bin Abd al-Rahman al-’Arifi, imam of the mosque of the Saudi government’s King Fahd Defence Academy

"The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and 'sabotaging' its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Allah's religion is made victorious over all other religions."
-- Mohamed Akram, "An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America," May 22, 1991, Government Exhibit 003-0085.

"Islam will return to Europe as a conqueror and victor, after being expelled from it twice - once from the South, from Andalusia, and a second time from the East, when it knocked several times on the door of Athens."
Sheikh Yousef Al-Qaradhawi, leading Sunni cleric

I am waiting to watch European servile dogs kneeling before Erdoghan in Ankara, now that the great Sultan got what he wanted and is more powerful than ever. So much for European spine, standards and principles. I will find the sight most amusing. What was it that the Great Sultan has said:

"Democracy is like a train. We shall get out when we arrive at the station we want." - Recep Tayyip Erdoghan

For this he started and intensified to bomb the Kurds, provoked them to strike back, raised Turkish hostility against them as a result of that (and pro-AKP sentiments), and then had new elections with now the correct result.



If you think these news and quotes have nothing to do with the migration problem, you better thinks twice - and if needed: a third and fourth time until you finally get it.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Jimbuna

The first migrants to land on British sovereign territory.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34590635

Not happy with shelter, three meals a day, privacy and communications while their asylum applications are processed by Cyprus.

Those staying there have access to three meals a day, shelter, privacy and communications, which United Nations staff have visited and say exceeds the standard of comparable set-ups.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34715877

[Betonov]

next to the place where the redhead works runs the main train line and every day at 10.15 a refugee train bound for Austria passes by.
I'll try and get a picture next time

[Betonov]

Originally Posted by Oberon

I've heard all sorts of accents this week, but the majority so far have been Eastern European.

Try Whitechapel main street and Mile end street.
A great concentration of Pakistani and Bangladesh culture, and still safe (gasp)