Former U.S president Jimmy Carter reveals he has cancer - Page 2

Mr Quatro · 08-14-15, 11:43 AM

I was mad at Jimmy for many years due to his canceling the best bomber ever built the B-1 bomber, but now I see that he had insight from advisors telling him about the B-2 and how much less it would cost over it's life span.

How do they pre-figure how long a plane made to bomb someone will last?

Anyway he was right and I was wrong ... I forgive you Mr President may you never give up even when facing cancer.

August · 08-14-15, 01:42 PM

One good thingI thought Jimmah did was to force the navy to buy a bunch of fast transports instead of another carrier like they had wanted. They sure came in handy getting our equipment over to the gulf during Desert Shield.

em2nought · 08-14-15, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vienna

I very much admire that he doesn't just talk the talk, he also walks the walk. I wish him the best going forward and hope he makes a good recovery...<O>

Ditto

Platapus · 08-14-15, 08:02 PM

I don't even think he was that bad of a president. He was up against a lot of tough problems in a horrible economy. I am sure he did the best he could.

But I do feel he is the best ex-president we have had in my lifetime.

Oberon · 08-14-15, 09:44 PM

He didn't get America into any costly wars, he helped reduce nuclear weapons levels, created the Superfund to deal with environmental disasters on US soil, and helped create a peace treaty between Israel and Egypt.
Honestly, the US has had far worse presidents, admittedly there were bungles in foreign and domestic policy, but as Platapus put it, he got thrown several pretty damn hard balls and it wasn't as if he didn't try to hit them.

Heck, it was down to this that we got the crazy YMC-130H which is a plane that just looks at the laws of physics and shrugs.

Platapus · 08-14-15, 10:44 PM

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Heck, it was down to this that we got the crazy YMC-130H which is a plane that just looks at the laws of physics and shrugs.

Ahh Credible Sport. Talk about out of the box thinking.

donna52522 · 08-15-15, 12:37 AM

Very shameful and disrespectful comments on this thread, the man was a submariner and what is the name of this site......um....sub..something?

Commander Wallace · 08-15-15, 04:19 AM

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Very shameful and disrespectful comments on this thread, the man was a submariner and what is the name of this site......um....sub..something?

I'm sure no one means to be disrespectful. It's human nature to face adversity with humor. For the most part, everyone has wished President Carter well. As with any public figure, it's hard if not impossible to separate someone from who they are and what they did. That is of course how we know them. As you pointed out, he served in uniform as a submariner . I pointed this out as well http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=221362

Like you, I feel he is deserving of respect, having served in uniform. That same respect is due anyone who has served their country in a similar capacity. Having been a sitting president though, people being people will look back in retrospect and let history decide their ultimate successes and failures.

I think most pointed out what they liked and disliked of President Carter's Presidency and why. We all wish him well. I felt he was a man of deeply rooted principals and integrity and I think most here agreed with that but everyone is free to form their own opinions . Any time you have a public forum and write publicly , there will be opposing viewpoints and we should welcome that.

As you and I and most said. We wish President Carter well and celebrate his enormous achievements.

em2nought · 08-15-15, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by donna52522

Very shameful and disrespectful comments on this thread

Only a true drinker of the kool aid could read this thread and come away feeling that President Carter was being disrespected.

Admiral Halsey · 08-15-15, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by donna52522

Very shameful and disrespectful comments on this thread, the man was a submariner and what is the name of this site......um....sub..something?

Can I ask where any of us were being disrespectful?

Subnuts · 08-15-15, 05:28 PM

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Can I ask where any of us were being disrespectful?

This thread is a heck of a lot more respectful than the thread where someone posted that the tumor that killed Ted Kennedy should have been awarded a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Oberon · 08-15-15, 06:07 PM

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This thread is a heck of a lot more respectful than the thread where someone posted that the tumor that killed Ted Kennedy should have been awarded a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

The entire thread about Ted Kennedys death is a busterduck.

Admiral Halsey · 08-15-15, 06:26 PM

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This thread is a heck of a lot more respectful than the thread where someone posted that the tumor that killed Ted Kennedy should have been awarded a Presidential Medal of Freedom.

Wait seriously? I can understand why some people not might be all that respectful of Ted Kennedy upon his death(Chappaquiddick the main reason) but to say something like that?

CCIP · 08-20-15, 02:28 PM

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34006918

Ay, tumors (plural) in the brain that metastasized from his previous liver cancer? Does not sound good

Certainly wishing him all the best, that's quite a brave fight to put up, especially at his age.

vienna · 08-20-15, 03:24 PM

Heard Jimmy Carter make his statement on his condition on the radio today. I can only hope to be as mentally cogent and lucid when I reach his age, not to mention as emotionally composed in dealing with such a dire prognosis.

Regarding alleged disrespect to Carter in this thread, I offer this as a counter:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/jim...orn-2015-08-20

If one wished for an example of grace under pressure, just look at Carter and how he has dealt with the bad hands he has been dealt...

<O>

08-14-15, 01:42 PM	#17
August Wayfaring Stranger Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 23,199 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	One good thingI thought Jimmah did was to force the navy to buy a bunch of fast transports instead of another carrier like they had wanted. They sure came in handy getting our equipment over to the gulf during Desert Shield. __________________ Flanked by life and the funeral pyre. Putting on a show for you to see.

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Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,369 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	I don't even think he was that bad of a president. He was up against a lot of tough problems in a horrible economy. I am sure he did the best he could. But I do feel he is the best ex-president we have had in my lifetime. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

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donna52522 Lady Mariner Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 544 Downloads: 225 Uploads: 0	Very shameful and disrespectful comments on this thread, the man was a submariner and what is the name of this site......um....sub..something? __________________

08-20-15, 02:28 PM	#29
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-34006918 Ay, tumors (plural) in the brain that metastasized from his previous liver cancer? Does not sound good Certainly wishing him all the best, that's quite a brave fight to put up, especially at his age. __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

08-20-15, 03:24 PM	#30
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,712 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	Heard Jimmy Carter make his statement on his condition on the radio today. I can only hope to be as mentally cogent and lucid when I reach his age, not to mention as emotionally composed in dealing with such a dire prognosis. Regarding alleged disrespect to Carter in this thread, I offer this as a counter: http://www.marketwatch.com/story/jim...orn-2015-08-20 If one wished for an example of grace under pressure, just look at Carter and how he has dealt with the bad hands he has been dealt... <O> __________________ __________________________________________________ __

08-14-15, 11:43 AM	#16
Mr Quatro Navy Seal Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 6,772 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I was mad at Jimmy for many years due to his canceling the best bomber ever built the B-1 bomber, but now I see that he had insight from advisors telling him about the B-2 and how much less it would cost over it's life span. How do they pre-figure how long a plane made to bomb someone will last? Anyway he was right and I was wrong ... I forgive you Mr President may you never give up even when facing cancer.

08-14-15, 09:44 PM	#20
Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	He didn't get America into any costly wars, he helped reduce nuclear weapons levels, created the Superfund to deal with environmental disasters on US soil, and helped create a peace treaty between Israel and Egypt. Honestly, the US has had far worse presidents, admittedly there were bungles in foreign and domestic policy, but as Platapus put it, he got thrown several pretty damn hard balls and it wasn't as if he didn't try to hit them. Heck, it was down to this that we got the crazy YMC-130H which is a plane that just looks at the laws of physics and shrugs.