If this news doesn't get you off fastfood, don't know what will

eddie · 09-23-14, 12:52 AM

BEIJING - A U.S. meat supplier said Monday it is laying off most of the workforce of a Chinese subsidiary accused of selling expired beef and chicken to McDonald's, KFC and other major restaurant chains.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-firm-...-off-hundreds/

Jimbuna · 09-23-14, 04:21 AM

Shocking but I don't eat in China (well not since 77) and I don't frequent any of those establishments in the UK

Probably get run over by a bus outside my place of work tomorrow

Wolferz · 09-23-14, 06:27 AM

If you've ever seen the kitchen in any fast food joint, you wouldn't eat there. EVER!

That's why I like Waffle House. Their kitchen isn't hidden away in the back.

Skybird · 09-23-14, 06:36 AM

During my student years I worked in a small hellhole of a kitchen for a Biergarten. Kitchen 4x3m, but the pub and garden for 300 guests... Only a few weeks, but the worst job I ever had, I think. I gave up on that one quite soon. Needless to say, the pay was lousy, too.

Since then I only rarely visit restaurants. I avoid fastfood almost completely, and when I buy food-on-the-hand or go into a restaurant, (happens very rarely only), I only do so when the kitchen is transparent (= you can see inside, some restaurants have discovered that as a marketing argument). Usually, I only buy some Pommes Frites occasionally, every two or three months, and for that I drive to the other side of town, there is a stand where they just make them perfect, and with good oil and not as salty as most do. Well done pommes frites are a delicatesse to me. And if correctly done, they are also not fat. It'S just that most stands offering them, prepare them lousy.

And thankfully I excel in making pizza myself.

Every week.

Stealhead · 09-23-14, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz

That's why I like Waffle House. Their kitchen isn't hidden away in the back.

That way you can see the cook flick boogers on your food.
Based on my experiance working on coolers and freezers and reach ins just because you can see a kitchen dose not mean that it is clean. Some of nastiest are the open ones. What it boils down to is dose the owner care because you can buy your way out of inspectiions. The refrigeration is one of the primary illness points and you cant tell from 20ft away if it is clean and at proper temp.

Here is a tip take look at the vents above the range if this area is clean then it is a good place. Those vents get ignored by many if those are kept most likely a very focused kitchen.

Sailor Steve · 09-23-14, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Wolferz

If you've ever seen the kitchen in any fast food joint, you wouldn't eat there. EVER!

That's why I like Waffle House. Their kitchen isn't hidden away in the back.

I frequent several different fast food places, and every one of their kitchens is visible from the counter where you order. Unless I use the drive-through I see my burgers being made every time.

Skybird · 09-23-14, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Unless I use the drive-through I see my burgers being made every time.

Unless they do not wave and shout Hello!, you must not worry.

Betonov · 09-23-14, 10:41 AM

Terrorists, bombs, Russians, Ebola, psychopats in back alleys and Americans coming after my oil and now this ??

Forget it, I'm eating out, today I'm going to get a kebab made by an original Albanian and tomorrow I'm going for a wiener schnitzel to that cheap dinner next to the railway station.

And if I die from food poisoning, tough luck. If my mothers chicken didn't put me in the grave by now, even McDonalds chineese beef washed with a romanian CocaCola won't.

Oberon · 09-23-14, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

Terrorists, bombs, Russians, Ebola, psychopats in back alleys and Americans coming after my oil and now this ??

Forget it, I'm eating out, today I'm going to get a kebab made by an original Albanian and tomorrow I'm going for a wiener schnitzel to that cheap dinner next to the railway station.

And if I die from food poisoning, tough luck. If my mothers chicken didn't put me in the grave by now, even McDonalds chineese beef washed with a romanian CocaCola won't.

Well said that man.

Betonov · 09-23-14, 11:31 AM

Don't get me wrong, inspection agencies should be real nazis when it comes to hygene. Expiration dates should be the eleventh comandement and every cook should present himself/herself to every patron*.

But being afraid to go out just because you're affraid that someone else would touch your food is arogant at best, thinking everyone else is incompetent when it comes to handling meals.

*unpractical yes, I just added it for dramatic purpouses

Oberon · 09-23-14, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Betonov

Don't get me wrong, inspection agencies should be real nazis when it comes to hygene. Expiration dates should be the eleventh comandement and every cook should present himself/herself to every patron*.

But being afraid to go out just because you're affraid that someone else would touch your food is arogant at best, thinking everyone else is incompetent when it comes to handling meals.

*unpractical yes, I just added it for dramatic purpouses

Also spot on.

Can't really disagree with that.

Sailor Steve · 09-23-14, 12:02 PM

I would dine in all the time, but I trust the cook here even less than the ones at fast food places. The voices in my head keep telling me he's evil.

Armistead · 09-23-14, 12:26 PM

I doubt fast food is prepared any less than safer than the normal household, they're probably cleaner than the average home cook these days..

That being said, I use to do in house work for the factory that makes chicken nuggets.....all the leftover junk and skin all ground up. Heck, see it dumped and shoveled into the bins with people coughing and snorting. Heck, watched a guy one day removing his little mask to hock up snot and spit it right next to where he was working and put his shovel in it. They keep it cold as a frig in the working factory and seems damn near everyone in there has a cold. I guess long as they cook it...but I haven't ate any since that day...

Buddahaid · 09-23-14, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

I would dine in all the time, but I trust the cook here even less than the ones at fast food places. The voices in my head keep telling me he's evil.

I'd say that's a step up from the evil back talk.

Wolferz · 09-23-14, 01:26 PM

I used to work on time clocks and hood suppression systems and I've been in KFC kitchens where you could literally skate on the oily floor and I've serviced time clocks where the carcasses of roaches fell out when I removed the cover and I've serviced range hoods that put the unk in Funk. But, then again, I served in the military where you get to eat out in the woods with dirty hands. The only time I ever got sick was when the mess section forgot to wash a lister bag that we were getting our water from. Military mess halls are among the cleanest places I've ever worked or dined in. They even go as far as caulking around every nook and cranny that a roach could hide in.
If you're scared of germs, never ever dine out or eat food that's served luke warm or cold.

09-23-14, 12:52 AM	#1
eddie Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,023 Downloads: 99 Uploads: 0	If this news doesn't get you off fastfood, don't know what will BEIJING - A U.S. meat supplier said Monday it is laying off most of the workforce of a Chinese subsidiary accused of selling expired beef and chicken to McDonald's, KFC and other major restaurant chains. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/us-firm-...-off-hundreds/ __________________ Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I'm kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, weak is not what you are going to remember about me. Al Capone

09-23-14, 04:21 AM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,964 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Shocking but I don't eat in China (well not since 77) and I don't frequent any of those establishments in the UK Probably get run over by a bus outside my place of work tomorrow __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

09-23-14, 06:27 AM	#3
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	If you've ever seen the kitchen in any fast food joint, you wouldn't eat there. EVER! That's why I like Waffle House. Their kitchen isn't hidden away in the back. __________________ Tomorrow never comes

09-23-14, 06:36 AM	#4
Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,717 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	During my student years I worked in a small hellhole of a kitchen for a Biergarten. Kitchen 4x3m, but the pub and garden for 300 guests... Only a few weeks, but the worst job I ever had, I think. I gave up on that one quite soon. Needless to say, the pay was lousy, too. Since then I only rarely visit restaurants. I avoid fastfood almost completely, and when I buy food-on-the-hand or go into a restaurant, (happens very rarely only), I only do so when the kitchen is transparent (= you can see inside, some restaurants have discovered that as a marketing argument). Usually, I only buy some Pommes Frites occasionally, every two or three months, and for that I drive to the other side of town, there is a stand where they just make them perfect, and with good oil and not as salty as most do. Well done pommes frites are a delicatesse to me. And if correctly done, they are also not fat. It'S just that most stands offering them, prepare them lousy. And thankfully I excel in making pizza myself. Every week. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

09-23-14, 12:02 PM	#12
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I would dine in all the time, but I trust the cook here even less than the ones at fast food places. The voices in my head keep telling me he's evil. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

09-23-14, 10:41 AM	#8
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Terrorists, bombs, Russians, Ebola, psychopats in back alleys and Americans coming after my oil and now this ?? Forget it, I'm eating out, today I'm going to get a kebab made by an original Albanian and tomorrow I'm going for a wiener schnitzel to that cheap dinner next to the railway station. And if I die from food poisoning, tough luck. If my mothers chicken didn't put me in the grave by now, even McDonalds chineese beef washed with a romanian CocaCola won't.

09-23-14, 11:31 AM	#10
Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Don't get me wrong, inspection agencies should be real nazis when it comes to hygene. Expiration dates should be the eleventh comandement and every cook should present himself/herself to every patron. But being afraid to go out just because you're affraid that someone else would touch your food is arogant at best, thinking everyone else is incompetent when it comes to handling meals. unpractical yes, I just added it for dramatic purpouses

09-23-14, 12:26 PM	#13
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I doubt fast food is prepared any less than safer than the normal household, they're probably cleaner than the average home cook these days.. That being said, I use to do in house work for the factory that makes chicken nuggets.....all the leftover junk and skin all ground up. Heck, see it dumped and shoveled into the bins with people coughing and snorting. Heck, watched a guy one day removing his little mask to hock up snot and spit it right next to where he was working and put his shovel in it. They keep it cold as a frig in the working factory and seems damn near everyone in there has a cold. I guess long as they cook it...but I haven't ate any since that day... __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

09-23-14, 01:26 PM	#15
Wolferz Navy Seal Join Date: May 2007 Location: On a mighty quest for the Stick of Truth Posts: 5,963 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	I used to work on time clocks and hood suppression systems and I've been in KFC kitchens where you could literally skate on the oily floor and I've serviced time clocks where the carcasses of roaches fell out when I removed the cover and I've serviced range hoods that put the unk in Funk. But, then again, I served in the military where you get to eat out in the woods with dirty hands. The only time I ever got sick was when the mess section forgot to wash a lister bag that we were getting our water from. Military mess halls are among the cleanest places I've ever worked or dined in. They even go as far as caulking around every nook and cranny that a roach could hide in. If you're scared of germs, never ever dine out or eat food that's served luke warm or cold. __________________ Tomorrow never comes