Thermal layer in sh3?

Aviv · 04-03-14, 07:39 AM

Dear captains!

Just a small question. Does there exist a thermal in sh3 like I remember in sh4: a certain depth under which the escorts have a harder time to find you?

Thanks for your help.

RConch · 04-03-14, 07:41 AM

The best answer I can give you is yes and no. If you use GWX I think they tried to model it in within the limits of the game. Stock-no.
Always best when in trouble to go very deep and silent.

Sailor Steve · 04-03-14, 07:59 AM

SH3 Commander provides a randomized thermal layer. It doesn't vary during a game session, but each time you load the game it sets it for a random depth over the whole game world.

Pisces · 04-03-14, 07:59 AM

Actually, this is modelled by SH3 Commander iirc. Not GWX. Atleast SH3 Commander has config files that randomizes it.

maillemaker · 04-03-14, 08:53 AM

What is the effect of the Commander layer? Does it reduce your detection level or eliminate it?

Steve

Pisces · 04-03-14, 09:14 AM

Iirc it pretty much disables the sensors of the opposing warships. It's a game limitation that it uses. You are outside of the detection depth. But you can't know where it is.

Jimbuna · 04-03-14, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

SH3 Commander provides a randomized thermal layer. It doesn't vary during a game session, but each time you load the game it sets it for a random depth over the whole game world.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pisces

Actually, this is modelled by SH3 Commander iirc. Not GWX. Atleast SH3 Commander has config files that randomizes it.

Rgr that

HW3 · 04-03-14, 07:10 PM

I have experienced it. When you are being pinged you can tell when you are passing through the layer as the ping sound starts sounding distorted, then it goes away when you are under the layer.

TabbyHunter · 04-03-14, 10:27 PM

I play GWX and, generally, once I hit 180 m to 200m plus, the pinging vanishes,..though the sonar man still reports pinging and the noise meter will go from green to red and back....

But I tend to find that at that depth I have no fear of depth charges as they always miss.

In my experience.

GJO · 04-04-14, 05:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TabbyHunter

I play GWX and, generally, once I hit 180 m to 200m plus, the pinging vanishes,..though the sonar man still reports pinging and the noise meter will go from green to red and back....

But I tend to find that at that depth I have no fear of depth charges as they always miss.

In my experience.

I think this is right - if I can get to a depth of around 200m quickly enough, I can survive and escape - even if I revert from 'silent running' to enable damage repair and torpedo reloads. Even with GWX the destroyers usually give up quite soon after losing contact - perhaps a little unrealistic given the dogged determination of real life convoy support groups.

BigWalleye · 04-04-14, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by GJO

I think this is right - if I can get to a depth of around 200m quickly enough, I can survive and escape - even if I revert from 'silent running' to enable damage repair and torpedo reloads. Even with GWX the destroyers usually give up quite soon after losing contact - perhaps a little unrealistic given the dogged determination of real life convoy support groups.

If you want a little more persistence from the escorts, you might try NYGM. British bulldogs.

HW3 · 04-04-14, 09:14 AM

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Even with GWX the destroyers usually give up quite soon after losing contact - perhaps a little unrealistic given the dogged determination of real life convoy support groups.

My experience has been that they give up around 45 minutes after losing contact in GWX.

Jimbuna · 04-04-14, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by HW3

My experience has been that they give up around 45 minutes after losing contact in GWX.

Very well remembered, if my memory serves me correctlt I think the timer was set to 40 minutes

desertstriker · 04-04-14, 08:37 PM

NGYM I think is at 3+ hours. question where would I look for that timer jimbuna?

LGN1 · 04-05-14, 02:01 PM

It's in data/cfg/sim.cfg ---> Lost contact time (or similar).

It's the time in minutes.

Regards, LGN1

04-03-14, 07:39 AM	#1
Aviv Electrician's Mate Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Israel Posts: 132 Downloads: 237 Uploads: 0	Thermal layer in sh3? Dear captains! Just a small question. Does there exist a thermal in sh3 like I remember in sh4: a certain depth under which the escorts have a harder time to find you? Thanks for your help. __________________ "It’s Friday, Friday gotta get down on Friday, everybody’s looking forward to the weekend"

04-03-14, 07:41 AM	#2
RConch Captain Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: No. Virginia Posts: 619 Downloads: 518 Uploads: 0	The best answer I can give you is yes and no. If you use GWX I think they tried to model it in within the limits of the game. Stock-no. Always best when in trouble to go very deep and silent. __________________ "Noch und Noch" Prowling the Nord Atlantik with GWX 3.0.

04-03-14, 07:59 AM	#3
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	SH3 Commander provides a randomized thermal layer. It doesn't vary during a game session, but each time you load the game it sets it for a random depth over the whole game world. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

04-03-14, 07:10 PM	#8
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	I have experienced it. When you are being pinged you can tell when you are passing through the layer as the ping sound starts sounding distorted, then it goes away when you are under the layer. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

04-03-14, 07:59 AM	#4
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	Actually, this is modelled by SH3 Commander iirc. Not GWX. Atleast SH3 Commander has config files that randomizes it.

04-03-14, 08:53 AM	#5
maillemaker Sea Lord Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 1,639 Downloads: 75 Uploads: 0	What is the effect of the Commander layer? Does it reduce your detection level or eliminate it? Steve

04-03-14, 09:14 AM	#6
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	Iirc it pretty much disables the sensors of the opposing warships. It's a game limitation that it uses. You are outside of the detection depth. But you can't know where it is.

04-03-14, 10:27 PM	#9
TabbyHunter Ensign Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pandora. Not the blue cat people Pandora... Posts: 227 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	I play GWX and, generally, once I hit 180 m to 200m plus, the pinging vanishes,..though the sonar man still reports pinging and the noise meter will go from green to red and back.... But I tend to find that at that depth I have no fear of depth charges as they always miss. In my experience.

04-04-14, 08:37 PM	#14
desertstriker Eternal Patrol Join Date: May 2012 Location: mod soup bar and grill Posts: 1,756 Downloads: 998 Uploads: 0	NGYM I think is at 3+ hours. question where would I look for that timer jimbuna?

04-05-14, 02:01 PM	#15
LGN1 Ace of the Deep Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 1,138 Downloads: 147 Uploads: 12	It's in data/cfg/sim.cfg ---> Lost contact time (or similar). It's the time in minutes. Regards, LGN1