Scharnhorst

andy_311 · 03-13-06, 05:37 PM

I just d/load the Scharnhorst,and installed it. Then I created a single mission for her,and eventually got her up and running. then I put her in the Bismark mission to see how she would fair in combat and to my suprise Bismark got hit numerous of times and the damage was quite visable while the scharnhorst recieved 5 hits from the Revenge BB and the destroyer escorts multiple hits on her midships but no visible damage.before she took out the Revenge and the DDs.
Im just wondering why there was no signs of damage on the Scharnhorst.

HW3 · 03-14-06, 02:13 AM

It is posible that there are no damage files for it yet.

Hunter · 03-14-06, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by andy_311

I just d/load the Scharnhorst,and installed it. .

Were did you get it?

Tazzie · 03-14-06, 05:10 AM

For those that don't know, the Scharnhorst is available here:

http://rapidshare.de/files/13656318/...t_1.2.rar.html

Wulfmann · 03-14-06, 10:59 AM

It is the Bismarck with 3 of Rodney's turrets but the KGV 14 inch guns.
So this is a Bismarck class with 9 14 inch guns and not anything like the smaller Scharnhorst of reality.
Had the Scharnhorst really possessed this much power the twins might have changed the course of the war.
There is no 283MM gun in SH3 so the choice was 14-15-16 inchers or 8inch from the Hipper class
Also denotes why I was never keen on it being made but to each their own.

Wulfmann

AG124 · 03-14-06, 12:56 PM

I thought the model looked different than the Bismark.

Really looked like a new model to me, although I knew about the turrets.

Cdr Gibbs said he was working on some new 11' turrets, but that they were not ready.

Another problem with the Scharnorst model is that not enough effort was put into the ID manual image. The grey background could have been deleted easily.

Still, overall a better effort than I could have done with a warship.

andy_311 · 03-14-06, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HW3

It is posible that there are no damage files for it yet.

I thought that myself,I also just d/loaded U-Boat WarAce v1.51 standalone and she appears in the RNd folder seems a bit silly to have a ship ingame that does not have any damage files (if that's what it is).

Rubini · 03-14-06, 06:37 PM

GW already have Scharnhorst scripted in Operation Berlin and at Norway invasion too. He take damage and sink like all others ships!

Rubini.

sergbuto · 03-15-06, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by andy_311

I just d/load the Scharnhorst,and installed it. Then I created a single mission for her,and eventually got her up and running. then I put her in the Bismark mission to see how she would fair in combat and to my suprise Bismark got hit numerous of times and the damage was quite visable while the scharnhorst recieved 5 hits from the Revenge BB and the destroyer escorts multiple hits on her midships but no visible damage.before she took out the Revenge and the DDs.
Im just wondering why there was no signs of damage on the Scharnhorst.

This may happen if the ZON file were not ajusted to account for changes made to the 3D model of the original/parent ship used for making Scharnhorst (whatever it was Bismarck or Hipper).

andy_311 · 03-15-06, 07:39 PM

Tried it again same mission (bismark) and she had a crew rating of 2 this time I took no part in the mission so it was basically a shootout between 2 UK BBs and DDs against the Bismark and the Scharnhorst,same thing occured again Scharnhorst took a few hit but nothing serious bismark took a pounding at the end british task force destroyed Bismark very heavly damaged almost sinking Scharnhorst virtually untouched. just can't understand it and I set the waypoints for the Scharnhorst to close on the brits to around 500m. next test I think I will set her crewratings to 0 and see what happens.

Tazzie · 03-16-06, 12:21 AM

How hard would it be to add 'Operation Cerberus' to a campaign file? :hmm:

For those that don't know, "Operation Cerberus' was the Channel Dash of the German battleships Scharnhorst, Gneisneau and the CA Prinz Eugen.

Kpt. Lehmann · 03-16-06, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Tazzie

How hard would it be to add 'Operation Cerberus' to a campaign file? :hmm:

For those that don't know, "Operation Cerberus' was the Channel Dash of the German battleships Scharnhorst, Gneisneau and the CA Prinz Eugen.

Grand Admiral Rubini, Grey Wolf extraordinare has added Operation Cerberus as well as other ops to the Grey Wolves Mod campaign files....

... coming soon to a website near you!

Hunter · 03-16-06, 01:32 AM

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I thought the model looked different than the Bismark. Really looked like a new model to me, although I knew about the turrets.

It has hull from Bismark, while re-arranged cabins and catapult. As for me, with 16-inch turrets it looks like USS Iova battleship.

Onkel Neal · 03-26-06, 05:44 PM

Hey Hunter, are you from Russia??

Hunter · 03-27-06, 01:08 AM

Exactly

03-13-06, 05:37 PM	#1
andy_311 The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oldham, Lancs,England Posts: 1,312 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	Scharnhorst I just d/load the Scharnhorst,and installed it. Then I created a single mission for her,and eventually got her up and running. then I put her in the Bismark mission to see how she would fair in combat and to my suprise Bismark got hit numerous of times and the damage was quite visable while the scharnhorst recieved 5 hits from the Revenge BB and the destroyer escorts multiple hits on her midships but no visible damage.before she took out the Revenge and the DDs. Im just wondering why there was no signs of damage on the Scharnhorst.

03-14-06, 02:13 AM	#2
HW3 Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Gresham Oregon Posts: 6,574 Downloads: 458 Uploads: 0	It is posible that there are no damage files for it yet. __________________ "Some ships are designed to sink...others require our assistance." Nathan Zelk

03-14-06, 05:10 AM	#4
Tazzie Helmsman Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 101 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	For those that don't know, the Scharnhorst is available here: http://rapidshare.de/files/13656318/...t_1.2.rar.html __________________ \"The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place.\" - Douglas Adams

03-14-06, 10:59 AM	#5
Wulfmann Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Florida Posts: 1,010 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	It is the Bismarck with 3 of Rodney's turrets but the KGV 14 inch guns. So this is a Bismarck class with 9 14 inch guns and not anything like the smaller Scharnhorst of reality. Had the Scharnhorst really possessed this much power the twins might have changed the course of the war. There is no 283MM gun in SH3 so the choice was 14-15-16 inchers or 8inch from the Hipper class Also denotes why I was never keen on it being made but to each their own. Wulfmann __________________ "The right to keep and bear arms should not be infringed upon, if only to prevent tyranny in government" Thomas Jefferson,; Constitutional debates

03-14-06, 12:56 PM	#6
AG124 Sea Lord Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 1,878 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	I thought the model looked different than the Bismark. Really looked like a new model to me, although I knew about the turrets. Cdr Gibbs said he was working on some new 11' turrets, but that they were not ready. Another problem with the Scharnorst model is that not enough effort was put into the ID manual image. The grey background could have been deleted easily. Still, overall a better effort than I could have done with a warship. __________________ DOWNLOAD GWX HERE: http://www.thegreywolves.com/index.html

03-14-06, 06:37 PM	#8
Rubini Ocean Warrior Join Date: May 2005 Location: São Paulo Brazil Posts: 2,728 Downloads: 132 Uploads: 0	GW already have Scharnhorst scripted in Operation Berlin and at Norway invasion too. He take damage and sink like all others ships! Rubini.

03-15-06, 07:39 PM	#10
andy_311 The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Oldham, Lancs,England Posts: 1,312 Downloads: 82 Uploads: 0	Tried it again same mission (bismark) and she had a crew rating of 2 this time I took no part in the mission so it was basically a shootout between 2 UK BBs and DDs against the Bismark and the Scharnhorst,same thing occured again Scharnhorst took a few hit but nothing serious bismark took a pounding at the end british task force destroyed Bismark very heavly damaged almost sinking Scharnhorst virtually untouched. just can't understand it and I set the waypoints for the Scharnhorst to close on the brits to around 500m. next test I think I will set her crewratings to 0 and see what happens.

03-16-06, 12:21 AM	#11
Tazzie Helmsman Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: NSW, Australia Posts: 101 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	How hard would it be to add 'Operation Cerberus' to a campaign file? :hmm: For those that don't know, "Operation Cerberus' was the Channel Dash of the German battleships Scharnhorst, Gneisneau and the CA Prinz Eugen. __________________ \"The idea that Bill Gates has appeared like a knight in shining armour to lead all customers out of a mire of technological chaos neatly ignores the fact that it was he who, by peddling second-rate technology, led them into it in the first place.\" - Douglas Adams

03-26-06, 05:44 PM	#14
Onkel Neal Born to Run Silent Join Date: Jan 1997 Location: Cougar Trap, Texas Posts: 21,385 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 224	Hey Hunter, are you from Russia??

03-27-06, 01:08 AM	#15
Hunter Commander Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: St.Petersburg, Russia Posts: 474 Downloads: 166 Uploads: 0	Exactly