Be aware of Obamacare

[Armistead]

Don't want to start another long Obamacare thread, but be aware of this, more so if you have an elderly parent on medicare. My wifes mother had a minor stroke, was placed in observation, where she received very poor care. She had a major stoke bout 30 hours later, the damage so bad she could never recover. She was moved to a better hospital, we had hope for a few days, but not to be, treatment has been stopped and they're waiting for her to die.

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[Tchocky]

I don't always parallel medicine to air traffic control, but when I do, I don't.

[Jimbuna]

Sorry to learn of your mother-in-laws illness.

[AVGWarhawk]

I'm saddened to hear of your mother-in-laws ordeal. My mother-in-law was diagnosed with cancer at the age of 50. There were times of touch and go. Calls for the ambulance to transport to the hospital occurred a few times. Until one day, the call was made and the ambulance was not dispatched and not going to be. That call to not make the call to the home with the ambulance came from the hospital. That evening she passed. This was 1998. Does this make anything better for your current situation? Not really. The only thing it demonstrates is somethings are just not to be. Some illness can not be overcome.

[Father Goose]

Originally Posted by Armistead

Don't want to start another long Obamacare thread, but...

I'm afraid that's inevitable.

My deepest sympathy to you and your family.

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I'm saddened to hear of your mother-in-laws ordeal. My mother-in-law was diagnosed with cancer at the age of 50. There were times of touch and go. Calls for the ambulance to transport to the hospital occurred a few times. Until one day, the call was made and the ambulance was not dispatched and not going to be. That call to not make the call to the home with the ambulance came from the hospital. That evening she passed. This was 1998. Does this make anything better for your current situation? Not really. The only thing it demonstrates is somethings are just not to be. Some illness can not be overcome.

Well, in her case had they admitted her and started stroke meds right away as they should've, most likely the clot wouldn't have burst 3 days later. She never even saw a neurologist in observation. Anyway, too late now, just hate my wife has to wait for him mom to die from lack of food and water, not fun to watch and wait.....just hope she goes quickly as possible

[GoldenRivet]

yeah its BS... the fiance got a letter in which her premium and copay are now over twice what she used to pay.

me... I dont even have an insurance plan anymore! My only options at this point are to either pay out the wazoo for a new policy or enslave myself to the government and jump on the welfare insurance bandwaggon

[Armistead]

Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

yeah its BS... the fiance got a letter in which her premium and copay are now over twice what she used to pay.

me... I dont even have an insurance plan anymore! My only options at this point are to either pay out the wazoo for a new policy or enslave myself to the government and jump on the welfare insurance bandwaggon

Well, we had insurance for our several employees, even though we had less than 50. It wasn't great and they paid for half of it, but it was insurance. Course then we had to abide by new Obamacare, the best we could find was was too expensive and we can't afford it, nor can they, so we dropped it. They're on their own now.....

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Armistead

Well, in her case had they admitted her and started stroke meds right away as they should've, most likely the clot wouldn't have burst 3 days later. She never even saw a neurologist in observation. Anyway, too late now, just hate my wife has to wait for him mom to die from lack of food and water, not fun to watch and wait.....just hope she goes quickly as possible

Sir, I completely understand. We too stood by and waited for the inevitable. In no uncertain terms is sucks. I distinctly remember the call from my wife stating the ambulance was not to be dispatched. She was at home and asked what she should do. I advised to get over there as the determination by the hospital was made for us. In hindsight that call was for the best. Sound kind of callus. However, there as no life for her mother. Blind, morphine and chemo taking it's toll. To add, her grandmother suffered a major stroke. She was allowed to sleep into that good night. It's tough and plenty of questions that will go unanswered.

[Armistead]

I went through some of it when my mother died. I guess it was easier because I knew she was dying regardless.

Hard for my wife, the day before her mother went in they decorated her house for xmas and went shopping. However, I know she'll cherish that last day in the future.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Armistead

I went through some of it when my mother died. I guess it was easier because I knew she was dying regardless.

Hard for my wife, the day before her mother went in they decorated her house for xmas and went shopping. However, I know she'll cherish that last day in the future.

It is a bit easier when you are given time to prepare. As in my mother-in-laws case. My father-in-law was diagnosed with liver cancer. He refused chemo. Passed three months after the diagnosis. I found my mother dead on her kitchen floor. It was 2 years ago this past November. Many unanswered questions there. Every doctor visit showed a clean bill of health. We are not infallible machines. My dad was a doctor. He always said, "If we know how easy it is to kill ourselves we would not live the way we do." He said this after pulling on his cigarette and drinking his scotch. Man do I miss my pop! I think each of us is faced with an event like this in our lives. My wife and I have seen our parents off to a better place. Give my best to your wife.

[Armistead]

Yep, my dad won't be around much longer, numerous issues and bad COPD. He still smokes two packs a day, while on oxygen. Doctors told us to leave him alone about it, not gonna quit and too late anyway.

[AVGWarhawk]

Originally Posted by Armistead

Yep, my dad won't be around much longer, numerous issues and bad COPD. He still smokes two packs a day, while on oxygen. Doctors told us to leave him alone about it, not gonna quit and too late anyway.

Same thing my pop said with smoking. Why bother? At 74, a pharmacy of pills to keep his heart going what is the difference. His quality of life was fine. Traveled the world with my mom. Literally traveled the world!

[Wolferz]

Saddened to hear of your troubles Armistead but, not unexpected with the new healthcare reforms. The reforms were not made in anyone's best interest other than the money grubbing insurance companies.

We all know that we are scheduled to expire at some point and now the government has decided to hasten the date in the interest of the all mighty dollar. It may turn out to rival the holocaust. At least it sure seems to be the plan to cast off what they consider the unproductive refuse of our society.
Those of us who aren't rich enough to pay our medical bills are destined for boot hill, sooner than later. I get closer to it with each passing minute due to suffering a massive stroke back in November of 2000. At that time, our local hospital tried to transfer me to another facility that refused to treat me and would not accept the transfer. I spent three days in ICU where I was left to flounder with port side limbs that didn't function properly anymore. I had trouble feeding myself and they did not care. Just as well, the food sucked anyway.

I have checked the ACA insurance marketplace to get this mandatory health insurance for milady and found out that the least expensive policy is $175.00 a month for suck arse benefits. Couple that cost with the high prices of everything and you end up juggling your bills and making a decision between food or electricity or medicine.
It sure seems like the government wants to kill us all.

[Armistead]

Wolferz, one our our kennel workers has health problems and obvious we don't pay much, not in this county. We figured she'd be better off to quit working all together, get medicare, welfare, food stamps, etc...Fact is she needs health insurance and even if she had a job with cheap insurance, she couldn't afford the deductible,.....so she's gonna live fully off the government and try to find some part time work under the table....She already got a nice apt in one of the govt funded programs.....