Can't use Stadimeter. Mast Entries wrong in Ship Recognition Manual

Aras · 10-18-13, 08:13 AM

I have mastered Manual Targeting however my ship recognition manual's higher mast entries are all wrong? I uploaded a few examples below:

I can give many more examples. What did you think? Did I get the whole thing wrong? How can I fix it ?

sublynx · 10-18-13, 09:50 AM

Some mods change the ships' dimensions. If you use an extra ship mod and a recognition manual mod, maybe there is a conflict?

Can you show us your modlist?

Aras · 10-18-13, 12:30 PM

Here :

One more thing, I have tried to use Charts Addon 1.4 but couldn't find the charts ingame ??? I had the same problem even before installing Charts Addon. Thanks.

sublynx · 10-19-13, 01:39 AM

There's nothing wrong in your modlist. Everything should be fine. I don't use GWX at the moment, so I can't compare your ships' dimensions to mine. Maybe some GWX player here in the forum can check their recognition tables and see if there is a difference between theirs and yours

Charts addon can't be installed through JSGME if one is not a GWX+Magui F user. It can be added through manual editing but that is such a big work that I doubt many people will try that.

Sailor Steve · 10-19-13, 07:28 AM

On the other hand the real recognition manuals weren't all that accurate either.

Aras · 10-19-13, 10:04 AM

Yeah, who prepared this manual surely has no understanding of mathematics

Even the drawings are wrong !

the dark knight · 10-19-13, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

On the other hand the real recognition manuals weren't all that accurate either.

Good point.

OP- Look up the drawing of the aircraft carrier Graf Zeppelin in the U.S. recognition manual.

And it is not even close to correct. I have not paid too much attention to the in game manual to be honest. Historically they were more or less a rough guideline.

desirableroasted · 10-19-13, 10:11 PM

After reading Operation Drumbeat, which follows U-123 under Hardegan in early 1942, I believe the manuals were largely useless. He was one of the best skippers out there, but constantly mis-identified merchant ships by as much as 10K tons, even in perfect conditions. IIRC, he even misidentified a merchant for a tanker.

How he then calculated range, I don't know. Most of his shots were taken from so close that even his mother would have hit the target.

Aras · 10-20-13, 11:29 AM

Decided to uninstall and reinstall the game opps the "simulation"

Before install GWX 3.0, i run the game to check ship manual and observed same problem so I think this is meant to be this way.

10-18-13, 08:13 AM	#1
Aras Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Istanbul, Turkey Posts: 102 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Can't use Stadimeter. Mast Entries wrong in Ship Recognition Manual I have mastered Manual Targeting however my ship recognition manual's higher mast entries are all wrong? I uploaded a few examples below: I can give many more examples. What did you think? Did I get the whole thing wrong? How can I fix it ? __________________ "Though I'm past 240 meters, I'm feeling very still and I think my u-boot knows which way to go ..."

10-18-13, 09:50 AM	#2
sublynx Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: In the conning tower of my VIIC scanning the sea through the periscope Posts: 1,698 Downloads: 173 Uploads: 7	Some mods change the ships' dimensions. If you use an extra ship mod and a recognition manual mod, maybe there is a conflict? Can you show us your modlist? __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] NYGM+H.sie v16+Stiebler 4C+MaGui WS

10-18-13, 12:30 PM	#3
Aras Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Istanbul, Turkey Posts: 102 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Here : One more thing, I have tried to use Charts Addon 1.4 but couldn't find the charts ingame ??? I had the same problem even before installing Charts Addon. Thanks. __________________ "Though I'm past 240 meters, I'm feeling very still and I think my u-boot knows which way to go ..."

10-19-13, 01:39 AM	#4
sublynx Sea Lord Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: In the conning tower of my VIIC scanning the sea through the periscope Posts: 1,698 Downloads: 173 Uploads: 7	There's nothing wrong in your modlist. Everything should be fine. I don't use GWX at the moment, so I can't compare your ships' dimensions to mine. Maybe some GWX player here in the forum can check their recognition tables and see if there is a difference between theirs and yours Charts addon can't be installed through JSGME if one is not a GWX+Magui F user. It can be added through manual editing but that is such a big work that I doubt many people will try that. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] NYGM+H.sie v16+Stiebler 4C+MaGui WS

10-19-13, 07:28 AM	#5
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	On the other hand the real recognition manuals weren't all that accurate either. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-19-13, 10:04 AM	#6
Aras Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Istanbul, Turkey Posts: 102 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Yeah, who prepared this manual surely has no understanding of mathematics Even the drawings are wrong ! __________________ "Though I'm past 240 meters, I'm feeling very still and I think my u-boot knows which way to go ..." Last edited by Aras; 10-19-13 at 10:32 AM.

10-19-13, 10:11 PM	#8
desirableroasted Grey Wolf Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: In the mountains, now. On the edge of the sea before. Posts: 933 Downloads: 47 Uploads: 0	After reading Operation Drumbeat, which follows U-123 under Hardegan in early 1942, I believe the manuals were largely useless. He was one of the best skippers out there, but constantly mis-identified merchant ships by as much as 10K tons, even in perfect conditions. IIRC, he even misidentified a merchant for a tanker. How he then calculated range, I don't know. Most of his shots were taken from so close that even his mother would have hit the target. __________________ "Well, now, that's true... the IXC is a bit of a chick magnet..but you really can't beat the VIIB for off-road fun."

10-20-13, 11:29 AM	#9
Aras Helmsman Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Istanbul, Turkey Posts: 102 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Decided to uninstall and reinstall the game opps the "simulation" Before install GWX 3.0, i run the game to check ship manual and observed same problem so I think this is meant to be this way. __________________ "Though I'm past 240 meters, I'm feeling very still and I think my u-boot knows which way to go ..."