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Aras 10-18-13 08:13 AM

Can't use Stadimeter. Mast Entries wrong in Ship Recognition Manual
 
I have mastered Manual Targeting however my ship recognition manual's higher mast entries are all wrong? I uploaded a few examples below:

http://s2.postimg.org/g6asra2u1/m_2.png http://s21.postimg.org/pm5kydyqv/m_1.png
http://s15.postimg.org/i5ocvodgr/m_3.png
http://s14.postimg.org/kb1ul7n0h/m_4.png
http://s16.postimg.org/x0wr2li7p/m_5.png
http://s9.postimg.org/rkz9st5lb/m_6.png

I can give many more examples. What did you think? Did I get the whole thing wrong? How can I fix it ?

sublynx 10-18-13 09:50 AM

Some mods change the ships' dimensions. If you use an extra ship mod and a recognition manual mod, maybe there is a conflict?

Can you show us your modlist?

Aras 10-18-13 12:30 PM

Here :

One more thing, I have tried to use Charts Addon 1.4 but couldn't find the charts ingame ??? I had the same problem even before installing Charts Addon. Thanks.

http://s7.postimg.org/3v2aw0kij/Mod_List.png

sublynx 10-19-13 01:39 AM

There's nothing wrong in your modlist. Everything should be fine. I don't use GWX at the moment, so I can't compare your ships' dimensions to mine. Maybe some GWX player here in the forum can check their recognition tables and see if there is a difference between theirs and yours :timeout:

Charts addon can't be installed through JSGME if one is not a GWX+Magui F user. It can be added through manual editing but that is such a big work that I doubt many people will try that.

Sailor Steve 10-19-13 07:28 AM

On the other hand the real recognition manuals weren't all that accurate either.

Aras 10-19-13 10:04 AM

Yeah, who prepared this manual surely has no understanding of mathematics :haha: Even the drawings are wrong !

the dark knight 10-19-13 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 2130207)
On the other hand the real recognition manuals weren't all that accurate either.

Good point.

OP- Look up the drawing of the aircraft carrier Graf Zeppelin in the U.S. recognition manual.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Zeppelin-1.jpg

And it is not even close to correct. I have not paid too much attention to the in game manual to be honest. Historically they were more or less a rough guideline.

desirableroasted 10-19-13 10:11 PM

After reading Operation Drumbeat, which follows U-123 under Hardegan in early 1942, I believe the manuals were largely useless. He was one of the best skippers out there, but constantly mis-identified merchant ships by as much as 10K tons, even in perfect conditions. IIRC, he even misidentified a merchant for a tanker.

How he then calculated range, I don't know. Most of his shots were taken from so close that even his mother would have hit the target.

Aras 10-20-13 11:29 AM

Decided to uninstall and reinstall the game opps the "simulation" :) Before install GWX 3.0, i run the game to check ship manual and observed same problem so I think this is meant to be this way.


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