A question about an online newspaper

mapuc · 08-24-13, 01:30 PM

Facebook placed a side on my wall, ´cause they thought that it would interest me. in 99 % I ignore thise suggestions. Not this time, I want to know what kind of news this was

The newspaper is called Red Flag

and here is what it says on their main page

"Aggregating the news that mainstream media distort and ignore"

Yesterday they had an article about some egyptian that had some info, which could get obama arrested.

Hello- Do you really thing that mainstream media such as CNN, Foxnews a.s.o would ignore such an important news?

Thinking of remove my "like" from this newspaper- Think it's one of these phoney/conspiracy-like newspaper.

Here's some of the news from that page

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines...trike-on-syria

Edit: found the article about this Obama thing

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines...nts-and-proofs

Markus

Sailor Steve · 08-24-13, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mapuc

Hello- Do you really thing that mainstream media such as CNN, Foxnews a.s.o would ignore such an important news?

Of course they would ignore it. They ignored the two-headed dog-boy, didn't they?

I read the article. Lots of "I know somebody who has information." When they show the actual proof, then it will be news.

Why would you 'like' a source like that in the first place?

mapuc · 08-24-13, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Of course they would ignore it. They ignored the two-headed dog-boy, didn't they?

I read the article. Lots of "I know somebody who has information." When they show the actual proof, then it will be news.

Why would you 'like' a source like that in the first place?

Curious in the first place that's why I "like" the page.

Sailor Steve · 08-24-13, 04:58 PM

Ah. I normally only 'Like' things that I like.

Just as I only 'Friend' people who are actually friends. That's funny, because the handful of people I consider true friends here aren't on my 'Friends' list.

Platapus · 08-24-13, 05:13 PM

It looks like Red Flag is an news opinion site. If you are interested in reading other people's opinions about stuff, sites like this are valuable.

However, if you are truly looking for a new source that reports different stories or stories not always covered in depth by the majors, you need to either go to local/regional news sources or international news sources.

When I really want to get a full spectrum of news reporting, I read not only domestic stories but stories in the various international news services/papers.

If you really want to understand stuff, you can't limit your research to only domestic sources.

mapuc · 08-24-13, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Platapus

It looks like Red Flag is an news opinion site. If you are interested in reading other people's opinions about stuff, sites like this are valuable.

However, if you are truly looking for a new source that reports different stories or stories not always covered in depth by the majors, you need to either go to local/regional news sources or international news sources.

When I really want to get a full spectrum of news reporting, I read not only domestic stories but stories in the various international news services/papers.

If you really want to understand stuff, you can't limit your research to only domestic sources.

Thank you so much for your advice.

Markus

Wolferz · 08-24-13, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mapuc

Facebook placed a side on my wall, ´cause they thought that it would interest me. in 99 % I ignore thise suggestions. Not this time, I want to know what kind of news this was

The newspaper is called Red Flag

and here is what it says on their main page

"Aggregating the news that mainstream media distort and ignore"

Yesterday they had an article about some egyptian that had some info, which could get obama arrested.

Hello- Do you really thing that mainstream media such as CNN, Foxnews a.s.o would ignore such an important news?

Thinking of remove my "like" from this newspaper- Think it's one of these phoney/conspiracy-like newspaper.

Here's some of the news from that page

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines...trike-on-syria

Edit: found the article about this Obama thing

http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines...nts-and-proofs

Markus

The first link reads almost word for word the same as an article on MSN.com regarding the pointy things being moved into position near Syria.

The second link was news to me but, take it with a grain of salt. It's nothing more than here say and he said she said gossip. If somebody has concrete evidence of some conspiracy, they should let someone in the legislative branch know about it. Along with every mainstream news agency in the free world. That way, it can't be quietly swept under a rug. Or can it?

CaptainMattJ. · 08-25-13, 01:29 AM

The problem is that people are so mind-numbingly gullible and too lazy to actually think for themselves so they let whatever they read on the internet tell them what to think.

As steve pointed out, the article has no reliable sources, farfetched information, and heavy bias. Yet a disturbing number of people would probably believe it. I remember a recent episode of Brain Games where a guy dressed in a suit being followed by a camera crew would go around and tell people the most ridiculous fake news, claiming to be a reporter, and those people would buy into wholesale.

Its truly, deeply depressing to come to the realization that if people weren't such sheep, so EASILY manipulated into ideas, that the world would be an entirely different place. "Individuals are intelligent; people are stupid". People get so tribalistic, so heavily brainwashed, that the true motives of the people aren't being implemented. Mob mentality is one of the worst things to plague humanity, as it prevents people from using their judgement, intuition, logic, and morals to make rational decisions; instead they jump on a bandwagon and believe whatever they're told to believe.

Jimbuna · 08-25-13, 05:34 AM

I'm wondering if they took the name or if there is any connection with a German communist newspaper created on 9 November 1918 by Karl Liebknecht and Rosa Luxemburg

fireftr18 · 08-25-13, 01:34 PM

I'm familier with "Red Flag." It uses the age old propaganda technique of showing real, verifiable news that every other news agency shows intermixed with false news. They hope people read it and accept the false news as true. After all, there are true news stories in there. I don't trust any news story unless I am able to trace it back to a reliable source. Then I'm still cautious about it because the story itself is probably biased anyway.

Takeda Shingen · 08-25-13, 01:53 PM

Protip: Always click on About Us links. This one takes you to another link called Frequently Asked Questions.

http://www.redflagnews.com/faqs

Some highlights:

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We don't trust anyone enough to endorse them!

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We got into this mess because we have been sheep NOT because we've needed a new shepherd.

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We are committed to providing the much needed information to voters on the issues.

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....and be educated and informed.

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We are a news “curator.” We carefully select from good sources and artfully exhibit it for the enrichment of the Independent thinking news consumer.

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Our story is a true grassroots effort born from the Tea Party Movement that continues to grow organically and prove to be a wise choice for those looking to expand their news experience.

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RedFlag News is popular with bloggers, 'high-information voters', Pinterest and Facebook users

Let's see. "We don't trust nobody". "Sheeple". "Informed" used as codespeak. "Artful presentation". Tea Party Movement. More codespeak. Yes, you can assume this is bunk, and can do so rather quickly. Reading is your friend.

Platapus · 08-25-13, 01:56 PM

"high-information voters"

08-24-13, 01:30 PM	#1
mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,537 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	A question about an online newspaper Facebook placed a side on my wall, ´cause they thought that it would interest me. in 99 % I ignore thise suggestions. Not this time, I want to know what kind of news this was The newspaper is called Red Flag and here is what it says on their main page "Aggregating the news that mainstream media distort and ignore" Yesterday they had an article about some egyptian that had some info, which could get obama arrested. Hello- Do you really thing that mainstream media such as CNN, Foxnews a.s.o would ignore such an important news? Thinking of remove my "like" from this newspaper- Think it's one of these phoney/conspiracy-like newspaper. Here's some of the news from that page http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines...trike-on-syria Edit: found the article about this Obama thing http://www.redflagnews.com/headlines...nts-and-proofs Markus

08-24-13, 04:58 PM	#4
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	Ah. I normally only 'Like' things that I like. Just as I only 'Friend' people who are actually friends. That's funny, because the handful of people I consider true friends here aren't on my 'Friends' list. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

08-24-13, 05:13 PM	#5
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	It looks like Red Flag is an news opinion site. If you are interested in reading other people's opinions about stuff, sites like this are valuable. However, if you are truly looking for a new source that reports different stories or stories not always covered in depth by the majors, you need to either go to local/regional news sources or international news sources. When I really want to get a full spectrum of news reporting, I read not only domestic stories but stories in the various international news services/papers. If you really want to understand stuff, you can't limit your research to only domestic sources. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

08-25-13, 01:29 AM	#8
CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	The problem is that people are so mind-numbingly gullible and too lazy to actually think for themselves so they let whatever they read on the internet tell them what to think. As steve pointed out, the article has no reliable sources, farfetched information, and heavy bias. Yet a disturbing number of people would probably believe it. I remember a recent episode of Brain Games where a guy dressed in a suit being followed by a camera crew would go around and tell people the most ridiculous fake news, claiming to be a reporter, and those people would buy into wholesale. Its truly, deeply depressing to come to the realization that if people weren't such sheep, so EASILY manipulated into ideas, that the world would be an entirely different place. "Individuals are intelligent; people are stupid". People get so tribalistic, so heavily brainwashed, that the true motives of the people aren't being implemented. Mob mentality is one of the worst things to plague humanity, as it prevents people from using their judgement, intuition, logic, and morals to make rational decisions; instead they jump on a bandwagon and believe whatever they're told to believe. __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison

08-25-13, 05:34 AM	#9
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,500 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	I'm wondering if they took the name or if there is any connection with a German communist newspaper created on 9 November 1918 by Karl Liebknecht and Rosa Luxemburg __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

08-25-13, 01:34 PM	#10
fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	I'm familier with "Red Flag." It uses the age old propaganda technique of showing real, verifiable news that every other news agency shows intermixed with false news. They hope people read it and accept the false news as true. After all, there are true news stories in there. I don't trust any news story unless I am able to trace it back to a reliable source. Then I'm still cautious about it because the story itself is probably biased anyway. __________________ Of all the forms of Martial Arts, Karaoke causes the most pain!

08-25-13, 01:56 PM	#12
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,361 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	"high-information voters" __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.