Heading home after a mission

pnig · 08-07-13, 07:41 PM

I have started a career and after completing all my assignments, sinking 8 merchants and expending all my torpedoes, I started for home. The first time a plane suddenly appeared and bombed me, the second time a destroyer found me at 300 feet going 1/3 and sunk me, and the third time all of a sudden all sorts of damage started and I sunk???

Clean Sweep · 08-07-13, 10:40 PM

Hey there and welcome!

Are you time compressing and viewing the navigation map for the trip home?

Aramike · 08-08-13, 12:44 AM

Just because you're returning home, don't let down your guard. If you're detected and decide to continue just zooming along, you'll likely end up sunk.

perttik · 08-08-13, 01:54 AM

same happend to me its annoying

Pisces · 08-08-13, 05:32 AM

Pay attention to which island/seamount you sail into! Zoomed out on the map you don't see the tiny islands.

And keep the timecompression reasonable. High timecompression reduces the chances of encountering other contacts. But when one does spawn deep inside your detection range then they have all the time they need to fire the first shot. You on the other hand need much higher reaction time to respond, and time to dive to safe depths. On top of that, by default, when detecting other units the time compression is reduced to a lower setting. But it does not go to 1x. So time is lost when you are catching up to the latest events that happen in fast-forward.

Consider changing the timecompression levels for events in SH4-gamefolder\Data\Cfg\main.cfg.

in_vino_vomitus · 08-08-13, 05:53 AM

All the good advice has been given. Don't go into high time compression until you're well clear of enemy territory and make sure your route home doesn't involve an overland segment. If you suddenly drop into X4 time and there's no obvious threat, check the map and have a look outside - you may be about to crash someone's beach party.......

Welcome aboard and good hunting

fireftr18 · 08-08-13, 09:31 AM

Welcome aboard pnig and perttik.

All the advice has been given. It gets easier. Start trying the supermods. They really add to the game.

Now the two of you need to get in a liferaft and paddle ahead of the boat looking for threats.

TorpX · 08-09-13, 12:58 AM

Howdy and welcome Pnig.

You didn't say what mods, if any, you were using. Some mods are intended to make the game harder. In any case, as others have said, just because you're done fighting, doesn't mean your enemy is done fighting.

pnig · 08-11-13, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clean Sweep

Hey there and welcome!

Are you time compressing and viewing the navigation map for the trip home?

Yes, I am using time compression and using the map to follow my progress and lookout for danger.

pnig · 08-11-13, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorpX

Howdy and welcome Pnig.

You didn't say what mods, if any, you were using. Some mods are intended to make the game harder. In any case, as others have said, just because you're done fighting, doesn't mean your enemy is done fighting.

I am not using any mods, still trying to get good at the basic game.

TorpX · 08-11-13, 09:46 PM

I don't remember much about the stock game, so I can't give you any helpful advice, but take it easy on the time compression, it can get you into trouble faster than you can get out of it.

pnig · 08-12-13, 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TorpX

I don't remember much about the stock game, so I can't give you any helpful advice, but take it easy on the time compression, it can get you into trouble faster than you can get out of it.

Thanks, I am getting more aware of that. What would you consider a "safe" compression? I have been using about 1500.

les green01 · 08-12-13, 11:17 AM

32 in enemy waters 128 no more than that

TorpX · 08-12-13, 11:19 PM

I would go along with Les. I've sometimes used up to 512x, but only to transit safe waters back to base. I probably wouldn't even do that anymore. I'm seldom in a hurry, and usually expect a patrol to take a fair amount of time.

Armistead · 08-13-13, 12:57 PM

I've never had a problem using high TC in enemy water, cept early war without radar. Your default values for enemy contact should always protect you, simply, you get a contact, TC goes to 8 or however you set it. Once I get radar I often use 3000 TC to roam around. Now, when in an attack, I seldom go over 64.

I can't explain what happened to you. Even in stock your crew should warn you in time. Course, most of us know how to read lag as a warning. Now if you spot a plane or ship, think you're safe and crank up TC, can be a quick way to die.

Groups don't spawn inside your detection range. They spawn when the max limit of your detection range comes in contact with the group. This will cause lag, the bigger the group, the more lag you will notice. However, your crew will only call out to the range of equipment or visuals on board.

If you had air and surface radar, what happened doesn't make much sense
unless you're making mistakes. The only time I've died not knowin what happened while using TC was hitting land, a mine or getting to close to a shore gun. I have died using TC early war without any radar type, even though crew gets a visual on plane or ship, I may not have time to get dived.
Early war with TMO, often escorts will blast you before the crew gets a visual, so you have to be careful.

08-07-13, 07:41 PM	#1
pnig Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Spicewood TX Posts: 12 Downloads: 80 Uploads: 0	Heading home after a mission I have started a career and after completing all my assignments, sinking 8 merchants and expending all my torpedoes, I started for home. The first time a plane suddenly appeared and bombed me, the second time a destroyer found me at 300 feet going 1/3 and sunk me, and the third time all of a sudden all sorts of damage started and I sunk???

08-08-13, 05:53 AM	#6
in_vino_vomitus XO Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Preston, Lancs, UK Posts: 418 Downloads: 137 Uploads: 0	All the good advice has been given. Don't go into high time compression until you're well clear of enemy territory and make sure your route home doesn't involve an overland segment. If you suddenly drop into X4 time and there's no obvious threat, check the map and have a look outside - you may be about to crash someone's beach party....... Welcome aboard and good hunting __________________ Forget death - I'll take dishonour! [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] TMO 2.5 1.5 Optical Targeting Correction 031312 for TMO 2.5 1.5 OTC Realistic Scopes for TMO TheDarkWraith_DC_Water_Disturbance_v2_0_SH4 Improved Stock environment v3_TMO&RFB TMO_Alt_engine-sounds TMO_Alternate_JS_Radar_performance TMO17_19_different_smoke

08-08-13, 09:31 AM	#7
fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard pnig and perttik. All the advice has been given. It gets easier. Start trying the supermods. They really add to the game. Now the two of you need to get in a liferaft and paddle ahead of the boat looking for threats. __________________ Of all the forms of Martial Arts, Karaoke causes the most pain!

08-09-13, 12:58 AM	#8
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	Howdy and welcome Pnig. You didn't say what mods, if any, you were using. Some mods are intended to make the game harder. In any case, as others have said, just because you're done fighting, doesn't mean your enemy is done fighting.

08-12-13, 11:17 AM	#13
les green01 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Freeman Missouri Posts: 1,784 Downloads: 1405 Uploads: 0	32 in enemy waters 128 no more than that __________________ I'll tell you what bravery really is. Bravery is just determination to do a job that you know has to be done. Audie Murphy

08-07-13, 10:40 PM	#2
Clean Sweep Seaman Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Louisiana Posts: 35 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Hey there and welcome! Are you time compressing and viewing the navigation map for the trip home?

08-08-13, 12:44 AM	#3
Aramike Ocean Warrior Best of SUBSIM Chairman Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 3,207 Downloads: 59 Uploads: 0	Just because you're returning home, don't let down your guard. If you're detected and decide to continue just zooming along, you'll likely end up sunk.

08-08-13, 01:54 AM	#4
perttik Bilge Rat Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 1 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 0	same happend to me its annoying

08-08-13, 05:32 AM	#5
Pisces Silent Hunter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: AN9771 Posts: 4,904 Downloads: 304 Uploads: 0	Pay attention to which island/seamount you sail into! Zoomed out on the map you don't see the tiny islands. And keep the timecompression reasonable. High timecompression reduces the chances of encountering other contacts. But when one does spawn deep inside your detection range then they have all the time they need to fire the first shot. You on the other hand need much higher reaction time to respond, and time to dive to safe depths. On top of that, by default, when detecting other units the time compression is reduced to a lower setting. But it does not go to 1x. So time is lost when you are catching up to the latest events that happen in fast-forward. Consider changing the timecompression levels for events in SH4-gamefolder\Data\Cfg\main.cfg.

08-11-13, 09:46 PM	#11
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	I don't remember much about the stock game, so I can't give you any helpful advice, but take it easy on the time compression, it can get you into trouble faster than you can get out of it.

08-12-13, 11:19 PM	#14
TorpX Silent Hunter Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 3,975 Downloads: 153 Uploads: 11	I would go along with Les. I've sometimes used up to 512x, but only to transit safe waters back to base. I probably wouldn't even do that anymore. I'm seldom in a hurry, and usually expect a patrol to take a fair amount of time.

08-13-13, 12:57 PM	#15
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	I've never had a problem using high TC in enemy water, cept early war without radar. Your default values for enemy contact should always protect you, simply, you get a contact, TC goes to 8 or however you set it. Once I get radar I often use 3000 TC to roam around. Now, when in an attack, I seldom go over 64. I can't explain what happened to you. Even in stock your crew should warn you in time. Course, most of us know how to read lag as a warning. Now if you spot a plane or ship, think you're safe and crank up TC, can be a quick way to die. Groups don't spawn inside your detection range. They spawn when the max limit of your detection range comes in contact with the group. This will cause lag, the bigger the group, the more lag you will notice. However, your crew will only call out to the range of equipment or visuals on board. If you had air and surface radar, what happened doesn't make much sense unless you're making mistakes. The only time I've died not knowin what happened while using TC was hitting land, a mine or getting to close to a shore gun. I have died using TC early war without any radar type, even though crew gets a visual on plane or ship, I may not have time to get dived. Early war with TMO, often escorts will blast you before the crew gets a visual, so you have to be careful. __________________ You see my dog don't like people laughing. He gets the crazy idea you're laughing at him. Now if you apologize like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.