Syria - Another Red Line

[Mittelwaechter]

http://www.worldtribune.com/2013/05/...rts-and-minds/

NATO data: 70% of the Syrians back Assad, 20% neutral (watch the stronger win), 10% for jihadists.

http://rt.com/news/sarin-gas-turkey-al-nusra-021/

Who would benefit from a mysterious gas attack in Syria?

Who would absolutly try to avoid any foreign support for the jihadists?
Especially when equipped with superior weapons anyway.

Sapere aude!

[_dgn_]

If it's good for American business, Obama can give (or sell) arms to the "rebels".

But it would be necessary that he prepares an US replacement (or spare) ambassador for the future ("liberated") Syria ...

Cheers.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by HW3

Every time we stick our nose into another country's business, it comes back bloody.

Give this man a cigar. Why we insist on making the same mistakes we've been making for the past 60 years is beyond me.

[Mittelwaechter]

Cui bono?

Who gets the billions of tax money spent for these mistakes?

Follow the money and you'll find the hands pulling the strings.

[Wolferz]

The warmongers have the propaganda machine running at 110%. Looking for any excuse to drag us into another conflict where we have no business whatsoever. It's a civil war after all.

The main questions are...
What's in it for us?
What do we gain by helping them?
How bad will the backlash be if we do?

The answers...
Nothing
Nothing
Don't want to go there.

What most don't seem to realize in regard to our involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan is the reason for that involvement... Opium.

Iraq is a major overland shipping route for Opium from Turkey to ports in the Persian Gulf.
Afghanistan was a major producer of Opium Poppies until the Taliban shut it down.
The drug czars (Skull & Bones) that have infiltrated the highest levels of the US government couldn't tolerate the interruption of their trade. A trade that they wrestled away from the East India Trading Company back in the 1700's with the use of faster sailing ships built by William H Russell of Connecticut. The founder of Skull and Bones.
China is the major market for the illegal Opium trade. Possibly the reason why we're so buddy buddy with them?

[Oberon]

Originally Posted by Wolferz

What most don't seem to realize in regard to our involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan is the reason for that involvement... Opium.

Iraq is a major overland shipping route for Opium from Turkey to ports in the Persian Gulf.
Afghanistan was a major producer of Opium Poppies until the Taliban shut it down.
The drug czars (Skull & Bones) that have infiltrated the highest levels of the US government couldn't tolerate the interruption of their trade. A trade that they wrestled away from the East India Trading Company back in the 1700's with the use of faster sailing ships built by William H Russell of Connecticut. The founder of Skull and Bones.
China is the major market for the illegal Opium trade. Possibly the reason why we're so buddy buddy with them?

[Mittelwaechter]

Our employers offered them our jobs, because these migrant workers are satisfied with much less.
First they traveled into foreign countries for work, and today additionally the work can be outsourced to them.

Support the free flow of trading goods, of labour and money.

Support globalization! F... our society.

Profit optimization and shareholder value first.

[mapuc]

You know what's the biggest problem?

Our politician do not listen to our excellent suggestion we try to give them.

Markus

[Mittelwaechter]

Report from Qusair - you may want to use a translator
(FAZ - major German newspaper from Frankfurt)

http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/a...-12218417.html

@mapuc
Our politicians are totally occupied by lobbyists. No time to listen to voters.
It's not their job, by the way.
Lobbyists offer structured information and provide eloquent arguments to support their point of view. They offer to write the necessary laws and maybe even a future after the parliamentary term.
Voters are bad organized, they don't pay the dinner and a majority talks all in a tumble about personal experiences and problems with their neighbours.

[Catfish]

^ Well said.
@ FAZ - yeah seems like the perfect time to support the future djihadists, with arms

And Mapuc also got it completely right.

[Wolferz]

Keep the peoples distracted, divided and bickering amongst themselves and they will fail to notice us stealing them blind.
Lyrics to the political twostep

[mapuc]

This is not good news

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...a-8660358.html

Markus

This is not good news

This is as unexpected as tuesday being the day after monday.

[donna52522]

It's just another case of Democrats thinking words will do something, the world laughs at them, especially when those words are never backed up by actions.

[Skybird]

A - GERMAN LANGUAGE - analysis which I found extremely well thought out and really giving a good insight into the historicla background of Syria - and whzy Syria most oikely is breakig n apart into a mutli-factional territory beign fought over by 3-5 different ethnicities.

The historical background of how Syria was formed up and came into existence as "one nation", only rarely, if ever, gets called back to memory and reflected about in TV news, thus the many calls for "simple solutions". But the problem is not simple by nature at all, but is extremely complex. Too much thought for too little time between two commercials. And after the second spot the good night story about how the firebrigade rescued the cat from a tree, to make people feel well before going to bed.