I did it....I finally did it....

[Red October1984]

I sat through all 209 minutes of Das Boot: The Director's Cut.

Wow.

I have never seen the entire movie all the way through....until now. I am glad I did. Wow....wow...wow what a great movie....

I want to see the Original Uncut version now. I love the storyline....Why have I never watched it before....

I used to skip through to the attack scenes but now I see that I missed out on much more.

I'm speechless...kinda....

It was beautiful.

[Cybermat47]

Tell me about it. While some films calmly say "War is bad," this one takes you by the scruff of your neck, and screams it into your face for 209 minutes until the message is literally burnt into your brain.

[Sailor Steve]

Taking it easy, eh? I've sat through the entire five hours of the 'Uncut Version' several times, and watched it one hour at a time a lot more.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Tell me about it. While some films calmly say "War is bad," this one takes you by the scruff of your neck, and screams it into your face for 209 minutes until the message is literally burnt into your brain.

I want to say that I understand....but...nobody will ever understand what those men went through.

No matter how much SH3 I have played....even though the Germans were enemies...

I respect those men. Those ordinary German men who sailed the Atlantic.

(Except the First Officer. He's a Nazi Robot who barely grows a beard to cover that baby face. I don't like him at all. He showed almost no emotion until towards the end. He didn't seem to care about the crew. He was like the Political Officer in The Hunt For Red October)

[Cybermat47]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

(Except the First Officer. He's a Nazi Robot who barely grows a beard to cover that baby face. I don't like him at all. He showed almost no emotion until towards the end. He didn't seem to care about the crew. He was like the Political Officer in The Hunt For Red October)

Yeah. Although, by the end, you can see that his faith in the supremacy of Nazi ideals has cracked. On his second or third patrol, he probably won't bother with shaving and his uniform. If he lives that far.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

I(Except the First Officer. He's a Nazi Robot who barely grows a beard to cover that baby face. I don't like him at all. He showed almost no emotion until towards the end. He didn't seem to care about the crew.

That's why you need to see the full-length version. What he really is, is a confused young man who is totally unsure of himself. He made his way from Mexico back to Germany to join the war effort not because he's a rabid party dog, but because he thought it was what he was supposed to do. He joined the party not because he's a 'true believer', but because he thought it was what he was supposed to do. He acts the part of the sincere nazi because it helps cover his own insecurities. He doesn't know what to do with the captain's teasing, so he keeps a stiff upper lip. I feel sorry for the poor guy. Also notice that when the chips are down and everything is falling apart, he keeps his head on straight and does his job.

Sorry, but the Director's Cut leaves so much out, especially in the characterization department.

[Jimbuna]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Sorry, but the Director's Cut leaves so much out, especially in the characterization department.

Most definitely...the 4 hours and 42 minute version is a lot better:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Das-Boot-Ser...9914617&sr=8-2

[Red October1984]

I have the Uncut version on my Amazon list. I'll get it eventually. I really want to see it.

I need to get the book too...

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by Red October1984

I need to get the book too...

The 'Uncut Version' of the movie has some harsher material, stuff that really makes you think. The book is outstanding, and a bit creepier. They actually left some of the harsher parts out, even from the long version of the movie.

Just remember that while it is based in fact, and taken from real memories, the book never claims to be anything other than fiction.

[Red October1984]

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

The 'Uncut Version' of the movie has some harsher material, stuff that really makes you think. The book is outstanding, and a bit creepier. They actually left some of the harsher parts out, even from the long version of the movie.

Just remember that while it is based in fact, and taken from real memories, the book never claims to be anything other than fiction.

It is very good fiction. I don't think there is a better U-boat story out there.

[AVGWarhawk]

Never seen it. I heard it was good.

[Sailor Steve]

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

Never seen it. I heard it was good.

The uncut version? The director's cut? The movie at all?

[AVGWarhawk]

The movie. Heard it was "B" rated nonsense. Boat, water, bombs, smelly guys all beating impossible odds only to die in their own country at the end. Same old song and dance. Typical Hollywood formula. It's a joke and totally common place. I had no interest. I watched, "20 Leagues Under the Sea." Much better story. Believable. Top notch stuff.








Believe that and I'll tell you I have a bridge for sale. I have all versions of the movie. Das Boot is the very best movie about u-boat warfare that will never be matched. Shame the Pacific submarine service is not handled by Hollywood in the same manner. In short, I was just messing with ya.

[Sailor Steve]

That's actually kind of funny. Europeans who love the movie praise it and say things like "I'm so glad Hollywood didn't get a chance to ruin it!" It is indeed rife with cliches and silliness. And sometimes bad procedure.

The attraction is that it's all filmed inside a full-size u-boat mock-up (three hyphens [and parentheses] in one sentence!) set on gimbals to roll and pitch, full of details. There is no real plot. It's just a patrol gone bad. It's a whole lot of fun, and the full-length version does a great job of showing the frustration and boredom involved, as well as the big moral decisions that sometimes crop up.

Despite its flaws it is easily the most believable submarine movie ever. It is also the direct inspiration for all these subsims. I can't recommend it enough.

[AVGWarhawk]

Yes it is the most believable. I do recall "Enemy Below" that was not bad for the time it was written and cast for a movie.