New book by Navy SEAL contradicts official version of Bin Laden's death

TarJak · 08-29-12, 08:28 PM

http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/w...death/?cmp=ydn

Will be interesting to see whether any action gets taken over this. I'd hope not, but then exposing classified information seems to get a lot of attention these days.

1480 · 08-29-12, 08:45 PM

Its pretty debatable. From the bits I have seen, he may have done himself.

Takeda Shingen · 08-29-12, 08:51 PM

Who cares? Dead is dead, and bin Laden is a man that deserved death. I am certainly not going to cry over an evil human being's justice. I just hope that Hell is hot enough for him.

CaptainHaplo · 08-29-12, 11:46 PM

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but then exposing classified information seems to get a lot of attention these days.

That depends. If you write a book - you might bet popped for it. If you leak stuff to reporters and movie makers and such to make yourself (or your boss) look good - it seems to be "wrong" but not serious enough to be a punishable offense.

Hottentot · 08-30-12, 12:15 AM

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Who cares?

I, for one, care about the truth, no matter whom it concerns. Killing bin Laden was without a question a historical event, and the less there is ambiguity about what happened, the less there will be myths and therefore less headache for the future historians having to prove these myths wrong over and over again. It may not be much now, but mere 100 years is a long time for myths be born and start living their own lives. Better try shooting them down now in our own era.

Not having read this book, I don't have an opinion of it. Also I might add that I'm not really losing my sleep over what they did to Osama. But I consider it a good thing that the official sob story is questioned if there are grounds for questioning it. If there are not, then this will sink as yet another conspiracy theory like that of 9/11 being an insider job. If there are, then yet another official sob story will be burned like that of Katyn. Either way the future history (an oxymoron?) benefits.

Takeda Shingen · 08-30-12, 12:56 AM

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I, for one, care about the truth, no matter whom it concerns.

Hottentot · 08-30-12, 01:08 AM

Whoever that is, he needs to have a discussion with his barber.

TarJak · 08-30-12, 01:41 AM

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Who cares? Dead is dead, and bin Laden is a man that deserved death. I am certainly not going to cry over an evil human being's justice. I just hope that Hell is hot enough for him.

This SEAL obviously does. I personally don't care how he got popped. He's one individual who was deserving of a hot reception where ever he ended up.

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That depends.... If you leak stuff to reporters and movie makers and such to make yourself (or your boss) look good - it seems to be "wrong" but not serious enough to be a punishable offense.

Bradley Manning anyone?

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Originally Posted by Hottentot

I, for one, care about the truth, no matter whom it concerns. Killing bin Laden was without a question a historical event, and the less there is ambiguity about what happened, the less there will be myths and therefore less headache for the future historians having to prove these myths wrong over and over again. It may not be much now, but mere 100 years is a long time for myths be born and start living their own lives. Better try shooting them down now in our own era.

Not having read this book, I don't have an opinion of it. Also I might add that I'm not really losing my sleep over what they did to Osama. But I consider it a good thing that the official sob story is questioned if there are grounds for questioning it. If there are not, then this will sink as yet another conspiracy theory like that of 9/11 being an insider job. If there are, then yet another official sob story will be burned like that of Katyn. Either way the future history (an oxymoron?) benefits.

There will be conspiracy theories anyway. I'm sure the Al' Queda team have a number of theories of their own. No amount of facts will stop idiots believing what they want.

Hottentot · 08-30-12, 01:55 AM

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No amount of facts will stop idiots believing what they want.

Sadly true. That still doesn't mean the facts shouldn't be uncovered, and again, I emphasize, if there are grounds for it. No doubt there are still also those who believe that Katyn massacre was done by the nazis, but supporting a lie by a government is no better than supporting any other lie. Making people feel better is not what history should be about.

Takeda Shingen · 08-30-12, 02:06 AM

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This SEAL obviously does.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question

TarJak · 08-30-12, 02:15 AM

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhetorical_question

mapuc · 08-30-12, 04:05 AM

Whatever he have done, he HAD the right to a fair trail.(thereafter we eliminater him)

As a journalist wrote after his dead, now those 9/11 believes got new blood-why did they kill him, why didn't they captured him alive a.s.o

I guess, now that it have been "revealed" that he was unarmed, when he was killed, those truther got really good stuff to use in their debate.

I'm not 100 % truther but even I wunder why they had to kill him and not giving him the right to a fair trail.

Markus

Dowly · 08-30-12, 05:02 AM

For the truthers to use this in any way, they would have to get the basics of 9/11
right first, something they have failed to do for almost 11 years now.

Oberon · 08-30-12, 05:59 AM

Han shot first!

HunterICX · 08-30-12, 06:00 AM

^Here we go again!

HunterICX

08-29-12, 08:28 PM	#1
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	New book by Navy SEAL contradicts official version of Bin Laden's death http://au.news.yahoo.com/world/a/-/w...death/?cmp=ydn Will be interesting to see whether any action gets taken over this. I'd hope not, but then exposing classified information seems to get a lot of attention these days.

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Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Who cares? Dead is dead, and bin Laden is a man that deserved death. I am certainly not going to cry over an evil human being's justice. I just hope that Hell is hot enough for him.

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mapuc CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Denmark Posts: 20,541 Downloads: 37 Uploads: 0	Whatever he have done, he HAD the right to a fair trail.(thereafter we eliminater him) As a journalist wrote after his dead, now those 9/11 believes got new blood-why did they kill him, why didn't they captured him alive a.s.o I guess, now that it have been "revealed" that he was unarmed, when he was killed, those truther got really good stuff to use in their debate. I'm not 100 % truther but even I wunder why they had to kill him and not giving him the right to a fair trail. Markus

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Dowly Lucky Jack Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Finland Posts: 25,054 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	For the truthers to use this in any way, they would have to get the basics of 9/11 right first, something they have failed to do for almost 11 years now.

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Oberon Lucky Jack Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 25,976 Downloads: 61 Uploads: 20	Han shot first!