Can't shoot straight

Dorjun Driver · 08-11-12, 08:16 AM

I really want to like this POS-piece of software. The problem is it won’t shoot straight.

The setup: PK off with 0 gyro, outer doors open and my sub at periscope depth with no forward/after momentum. I let fly with my fish and they skitter off in directions that would make Fat Freddy’s cockroaches proud!

Am I missing something?
dorj

MaxOptics IV for SH4 1.5 mod
Win 7 64-bit pro w/8GB
AMD II x4 975
nVidia GTS 450 o/c 930x2075

Rockin Robbins · 08-11-12, 08:40 AM

BLAME THE TINNIES!!!

Yes, you're missing something. The game works great and targeting is not broken. So you're stuck either straightening out your technique or blaming the tinnies. But first you'll have to drink some.....

There's not enough information in your post to tell what you are doing wrong so I'll just direct you to the Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks thread where you can pick up on the Dick O'Kane technique with a link in the first post. That will bild a little confidence in you that you actually can hit targets and be dangerous. Once you understand how that works, you should branch out to other targeting techniques, including conventional WWII American Submarine targeting, which you are having so much trouble with now.

But you need to get it out of your head that the game is broken. It is not. Your technique is what is broken.

Dorjun Driver · 08-11-12, 09:43 AM

The point Rockin? I daresay you***8217;ve missed it. I***8217;m setting up a solution to do trapshooting as per gutted***8217;s Solution Solver 1.3.3, ie. determine the lead and shoot (no real target required).

Without changing anything in the torpedo setting panel, aft tube #5 sends a torpedo hither and aft tube #6 sends a torpedo yon. As a concrete example, #5 fish goes off on a bearing of 225 and #6 fish goes off on 135. As Bill O***8217;Reilly would say, ***8220;You can***8217;t explain that!***8221; Well, perhaps you can, but I can***8217;t.

dorj

edit: Who and or what are the TINNIES?

robbo180265 · 08-11-12, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dorjun Driver

The point Rockin? I daresay you***8217;ve missed it. I***8217;m setting up a solution to do trapshooting as per gutted***8217;s Solution Solver 1.3.3, ie. determine the lead and shoot (no real target required).

Without changing anything in the torpedo setting panel, aft tube #5 sends a torpedo hither and aft tube #6 sends a torpedo yon. As a concrete example, #5 fish goes off on a bearing of 225 and #6 fish goes off on 135. As Bill O***8217;Reilly would say, ***8220;You can***8217;t explain that!***8221; Well, perhaps you can, but I can***8217;t.

dorj

edit: Who and or what are the TINNIES?

Just a thought......Have you got duds enabled ? The reason I ask is because I was caught out like that for a while.

If you have enabled that setting then a dud will head all over the place (except of course where you are targeting)

Oh and tinnies are beers (to some of us Brits anyway) I believe it originated from the fosters adverts that were shown over here.

Edit because the link for the Fosters add looked like it was my sig. If you watch the advert you'll see Paul Hogan brainwashing Brits (honest)

Rockin Robbins · 08-11-12, 12:06 PM

You do have a non-zero range input, don't you? That would have been okay in the real TDC but our digital one has a cow.

The point is that the "POS" game works fine.

Apparently the word "tinnie" means beer in a small part of the British Isles. The word is predominately used in Australia to mean something that just doesn't make the joke funny at all, so that one isn't it. I encountered the term in a post on a radio control aircraft group where the poster gave a list of possible causes of a serious plane cratering and included "tinnies" in his list.

This Yank spent an hour chasing the term before figuring out what it meant. I'm getting some return on my investment!

By the way, sometimes the ingestion of tinnies is appropriate and sometimes it is not. As a service to the fine people over at RC Groups I made a flowchart so people can quickly determine whether a tinnie or three would be appropriate. Please substitute "Torpedoes Away!" for "Go fly" and "Target Sunk?" for "Plane in one piece" for use in manual targeting.

And please be careful to follow the chart as amended above exactly. Inappropriate consumption of tinnies can result in bizarre torpedo misses.

fireftr18 · 08-11-12, 02:22 PM

I like the flow chart. I'll be sure to follow it exactly.

Rockin Robbins · 08-11-12, 02:48 PM

And a flow chart is SO appropriate for a situation such as this.

robbo180265 · 08-11-12, 03:30 PM

Good flow chart

Dorjun Driver · 08-11-12, 04:49 PM

Well that just about explains everything. It's a bit early in the day for beer, is it OK to substitute rum?

x-cruzan

Rockin Robbins · 08-11-12, 06:47 PM

Arrrrrrr! Feel free, cap'n. It's your boat!

TorpX · 08-12-12, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fireftr18

I like the flow chart. I'll be sure to follow it exactly.

I like it too. Now we just need a version with Rum, for when we have computer, um, *situations*.

Rockin Robbins · 08-12-12, 01:02 PM

rebel 411 · 08-12-12, 01:17 PM

love the flow chart it works for me

Rockin Robbins · 08-12-12, 01:33 PM

How do you know? Have you tested it? That could be an anomalous result you know. The only way to know for sure is further testing. This is war. Great commitment is called for.

And please use great care in using the chart to only ingest rum when it is appropriate. Inappropriate ingestion of rum can result in child support payments.

fireftr18 · 08-12-12, 04:01 PM

Now we have two charts. That is way too confusing.

I think I'll go off the chart and have a few tinnies, or rum, or bourbon.

08-11-12, 08:16 AM	#1
Dorjun Driver Loader Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: The Upper Left Edge Posts: 81 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Can't shoot straight I really want to like this POS-piece of software. The problem is it won’t shoot straight. The setup: PK off with 0 gyro, outer doors open and my sub at periscope depth with no forward/after momentum. I let fly with my fish and they skitter off in directions that would make Fat Freddy’s cockroaches proud! Am I missing something? dorj MaxOptics IV for SH4 1.5 mod Win 7 64-bit pro w/8GB AMD II x4 975 nVidia GTS 450 o/c 930x2075

08-11-12, 08:40 AM	#2
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	BLAME THE TINNIES!!! Yes, you're missing something. The game works great and targeting is not broken. So you're stuck either straightening out your technique or blaming the tinnies. But first you'll have to drink some..... There's not enough information in your post to tell what you are doing wrong so I'll just direct you to the Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks thread where you can pick up on the Dick O'Kane technique with a link in the first post. That will bild a little confidence in you that you actually can hit targets and be dangerous. Once you understand how that works, you should branch out to other targeting techniques, including conventional WWII American Submarine targeting, which you are having so much trouble with now. But you need to get it out of your head that the game is broken. It is not. Your technique is what is broken. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

08-11-12, 02:48 PM	#7
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	And a flow chart is SO appropriate for a situation such as this. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

08-11-12, 06:47 PM	#10
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Arrrrrrr! Feel free, cap'n. It's your boat! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

08-12-12, 01:02 PM	#12
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	__________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

08-11-12, 09:43 AM	#3
Dorjun Driver Loader Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: The Upper Left Edge Posts: 81 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	The point Rockin? I daresay you*8217;ve missed it. I8217;m setting up a solution to do trapshooting as per gutted8217;s Solution Solver 1.3.3, ie. determine the lead and shoot (no real target required). Without changing anything in the torpedo setting panel, aft tube #5 sends a torpedo hither and aft tube #6 sends a torpedo yon. As a concrete example, #5 fish goes off on a bearing of 225 and #6 fish goes off on 135. As Bill O*8217;Reilly would say, 8220;You can8217;t explain that!8221; Well, perhaps you can, but I can**8217;t. dorj edit: Who and or what are the TINNIES?

08-11-12, 12:06 PM	#5
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	You do have a non-zero range input, don't you? That would have been okay in the real TDC but our digital one has a cow. The point is that the "POS" game works fine. Apparently the word "tinnie" means beer in a small part of the British Isles. The word is predominately used in Australia to mean something that just doesn't make the joke funny at all, so that one isn't it. I encountered the term in a post on a radio control aircraft group where the poster gave a list of possible causes of a serious plane cratering and included "tinnies" in his list. This Yank spent an hour chasing the term before figuring out what it meant. I'm getting some return on my investment! By the way, sometimes the ingestion of tinnies is appropriate and sometimes it is not. As a service to the fine people over at RC Groups I made a flowchart so people can quickly determine whether a tinnie or three would be appropriate. Please substitute "Torpedoes Away!" for "Go fly" and "Target Sunk?" for "Plane in one piece" for use in manual targeting. And please be careful to follow the chart as amended above exactly. Inappropriate consumption of tinnies can result in bizarre torpedo misses. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS Last edited by Rockin Robbins; 08-11-12 at 12:28 PM.

08-11-12, 02:22 PM	#6
fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	I like the flow chart. I'll be sure to follow it exactly.

08-11-12, 03:30 PM	#8
robbo180265 Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Brighton, England.Party capital of the south Posts: 2,255 Downloads: 126 Uploads: 0	Good flow chart

08-11-12, 04:49 PM	#9
Dorjun Driver Loader Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: The Upper Left Edge Posts: 81 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Well that just about explains everything. It's a bit early in the day for beer, is it OK to substitute rum? x-cruzan

08-12-12, 01:17 PM	#13
rebel 411 Swabbie Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Michigan,USA Posts: 9 Downloads: 69 Uploads: 0	love the flow chart it works for me

08-12-12, 01:33 PM	#14
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	How do you know? Have you tested it? That could be an anomalous result you know. The only way to know for sure is further testing. This is war. Great commitment is called for. And please use great care in using the chart to only ingest rum when it is appropriate. Inappropriate ingestion of rum can result in child support payments. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

08-12-12, 04:01 PM	#15
fireftr18 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,528 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 0	Now we have two charts. That is way too confusing. I think I'll go off the chart and have a few tinnies, or rum, or bourbon.