SH3Cmdr - Need help with Expanded Names List

Marhkimov · 01-01-06, 09:48 PM

JScones put out a call for anything SH3Cmdr related, and this is what I have to contribute. Its my own list of German first and last names.

You can download the current version and use it if you like, but what I really need is for a person of German decent to check up on my work (I am not German). Make sure all of the names are not out of place, and that they are all historically correct. However, I assume that most of them are correct.

EDIT: I have alphabetized the last names...
http://files.filefront.com/Expanded_.../fileinfo.html

I hope someone can help me. Thanks!
Marhkimov.

JScones · 01-02-06, 01:12 AM

Hehe. May wanna hold five on this. I contacted the maintainer of the crew lists over at http://www.ubootwaffe.net/ seeking permission to use their database. They've given it, and I have just downloaded all 42,002 names. This means a potential for 1,764,168,004 random names. Would that be sufficient?

Marhkimov · 01-02-06, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

...I have just downloaded all 42,002 names. This means a potential for 1,764,168,004 random names. Would that be sufficient?

What?

That's it??!?!?!

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

JScones · 01-02-06, 02:56 AM

Actually, after taking out incomplete names, the possible combinations goes down to 1,708,221,340.

Also, due to the SH3 imposed limit in name lengths, some names will never appear (ie "von Wilamowitz-Moellendorf"), but I've kept them in anyway for completeness.

One question for anyone... where a surname includes Graf, should it be "Graf von Whatever" or "von Whatever Graf" or "Whatever Graf von" or "Whatever von Graf"?

Gizzmoe · 01-02-06, 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

One question for anyone... where a surname includes Graf, should it be "Graf von Whatever" or "von Whatever Graf" or "Whatever Graf von" or "Whatever Graf von"?

"<Firstname> Graf von Whatever", "<Firstname> Freiherr von Whatever", "<Firstname> Baron von Whatever"... All that are noble titles.

"Graf", and "von Graf" are "normal" surnames, for example "Adolf Graf" and "Karl von Graf".

JScones · 01-02-06, 04:04 AM

Thanks. I've actually now (hopefully) removed all titles. They're not needed and just take up space. No disrespect to the actual title holders though! Graf and von Graf remain (there aren't many von Graf's at all actually).

JScones · 01-02-06, 07:34 AM

OK, one more question. Double s... some entries use ss, others ÃŸ, for example, DreÃŸler and Dressler. I know both are right, but how would a German actually write it (and if it makes a difference, in WWII)? If ÃŸ, does that mean that every entry with an ss should be replaced with a ÃŸ?

Likewise does oe = Ã¶, etc?

The ulterior motive here is the extra character space that would be freed.

BTW "auf der Mauer" seems a strange surname?

Gizzmoe · 01-02-06, 09:50 AM

You should only change ae (Ã¤), oe (Ã¶), ue (Ã¼), but not ss to ÃŸ, it looks stupid and wouldnÂ´t be done IRL. Normally you wouldnÂ´t change the names at all, "Draeger" and "DrÃ¤ger" for example are two different surnames.

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BTW "auf der Mauer" seems a strange surname?

Strange, but valid. ItÂ´s a very rare surname.

Jochen Mohr · 01-02-06, 11:36 AM

Strange Surnames:

There was a Commander out Vienna,his Name was Rodler von Roithberg,which is a very strange Name,but an old Title!

Kpt. Lehmann · 01-02-06, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JScones

Hehe. May wanna hold five on this. I contacted the maintainer of the crew lists over at http://www.ubootwaffe.net/ seeking permission to use their database. They've given it, and I have just downloaded all 42,002 names. This means a potential for 1,764,168,004 random names. Would that be sufficient?

OMG!!!!

1.76 BILLION!!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Wtg JSCones... I do believe that will be enough to make everyone happy.

CCIP · 01-02-06, 02:50 PM

For a country that even today only has 80 million people, that ain't too bad

Hitman · 01-02-06, 02:52 PM

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Wtg JSCones... I do believe that will be enough to make everyone happy

Nah...let us improve it with the telephone book from the city of Berlin

Marhkimov · 01-02-06, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitman

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Wtg JSCones... I do believe that will be enough to make everyone happy

Nah...let us improve it with the telephone book from the city of Berlin

So Jaeson, when are you gonna give them a call?

Let's DL from their name database!

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

JScones · 01-03-06, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jochen Mohr

Strange Surnames:

There was a Commander out Vienna,his Name was Rodler von Roithberg,which is a very strange Name,but an old Title!

Yep, ol' Hardo's surname is in the list!

JScones · 01-03-06, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Marhkimov

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Originally Posted by Hitman

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Wtg JSCones... I do believe that will be enough to make everyone happy

Nah...let us improve it with the telephone book from the city of Berlin

So Jaeson, when are you gonna give them a call?

Let's DL from their name database!

Look, I've been meaning to call, but I've just been too busy. Honestly!

Gee, hehe, I haven't used that line since my young, single days. :rotfl:

01-01-06, 09:48 PM	#1
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SH3Cmdr - Need help with Expanded Names List JScones put out a call for anything SH3Cmdr related, and this is what I have to contribute. Its my own list of German first and last names. You can download the current version and use it if you like, but what I really need is for a person of German decent to check up on my work (I am not German). Make sure all of the names are not out of place, and that they are all historically correct. However, I assume that most of them are correct. EDIT: I have alphabetized the last names... http://files.filefront.com/Expanded_.../fileinfo.html I hope someone can help me. Thanks! Marhkimov. __________________ It takes two to tango

01-02-06, 11:36 AM	#9
Jochen Mohr Watch Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: WIEN Posts: 25 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Strange Surnames: There was a Commander out Vienna,his Name was Rodler von Roithberg,which is a very strange Name,but an old Title! __________________ Proud Member of WaW U658 1.Flottille

01-02-06, 02:50 PM	#11
CCIP Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Waterloo, Canada Posts: 8,700 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 2	For a country that even today only has 80 million people, that ain't too bad __________________ There are only forty people in the world and five of them are hamburgers. -Don Van Vliet (aka Captain Beefheart)

01-02-06, 01:12 AM	#2
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Hehe. May wanna hold five on this. I contacted the maintainer of the crew lists over at http://www.ubootwaffe.net/ seeking permission to use their database. They've given it, and I have just downloaded all 42,002 names. This means a potential for 1,764,168,004 random names. Would that be sufficient?

01-02-06, 02:56 AM	#4
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Actually, after taking out incomplete names, the possible combinations goes down to 1,708,221,340. Also, due to the SH3 imposed limit in name lengths, some names will never appear (ie "von Wilamowitz-Moellendorf"), but I've kept them in anyway for completeness. One question for anyone... where a surname includes Graf, should it be "Graf von Whatever" or "von Whatever Graf" or "Whatever Graf von" or "Whatever von Graf"?

01-02-06, 04:04 AM	#6
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	Thanks. I've actually now (hopefully) removed all titles. They're not needed and just take up space. No disrespect to the actual title holders though! Graf and von Graf remain (there aren't many von Graf's at all actually).

01-02-06, 07:34 AM	#7
JScones Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,501 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	OK, one more question. Double s... some entries use ss, others ÃŸ, for example, DreÃŸler and Dressler. I know both are right, but how would a German actually write it (and if it makes a difference, in WWII)? If ÃŸ, does that mean that every entry with an ss should be replaced with a ÃŸ? Likewise does oe = Ã¶, etc? The ulterior motive here is the extra character space that would be freed. BTW "auf der Mauer" seems a strange surname?