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Marhkimov 01-01-06 09:48 PM

SH3Cmdr - Need help with Expanded Names List
 
JScones put out a call for anything SH3Cmdr related, and this is what I have to contribute. Its my own list of German first and last names.

You can download the current version and use it if you like, but what I really need is for a person of German decent to check up on my work (I am not German). Make sure all of the names are not out of place, and that they are all historically correct. However, I assume that most of them are correct.

EDIT: I have alphabetized the last names...

http://files.filefront.com/Expanded_.../fileinfo.html


I hope someone can help me. Thanks!
Marhkimov.

JScones 01-02-06 01:12 AM

Hehe. May wanna hold five on this. I contacted the maintainer of the crew lists over at http://www.ubootwaffe.net/ seeking permission to use their database. They've given it, and I have just downloaded all 42,002 names. This means a potential for 1,764,168,004 random names. Would that be sufficient?

Marhkimov 01-02-06 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones
...I have just downloaded all 42,002 names. This means a potential for 1,764,168,004 random names. Would that be sufficient?

What?

That's it??!?!?! :-?






:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

JScones 01-02-06 02:56 AM

Actually, after taking out incomplete names, the possible combinations goes down to 1,708,221,340. :(

Also, due to the SH3 imposed limit in name lengths, some names will never appear (ie "von Wilamowitz-Moellendorf"), but I've kept them in anyway for completeness.

One question for anyone... where a surname includes Graf, should it be "Graf von Whatever" or "von Whatever Graf" or "Whatever Graf von" or "Whatever von Graf"?

Gizzmoe 01-02-06 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones
One question for anyone... where a surname includes Graf, should it be "Graf von Whatever" or "von Whatever Graf" or "Whatever Graf von" or "Whatever Graf von"?

"<Firstname> Graf von Whatever", "<Firstname> Freiherr von Whatever", "<Firstname> Baron von Whatever"... All that are noble titles.

"Graf", and "von Graf" are "normal" surnames, for example "Adolf Graf" and "Karl von Graf".

JScones 01-02-06 04:04 AM

Thanks. I've actually now (hopefully) removed all titles. They're not needed and just take up space. No disrespect to the actual title holders though! Graf and von Graf remain (there aren't many von Graf's at all actually).

JScones 01-02-06 07:34 AM

OK, one more question. Double s... some entries use ss, others ß, for example, Dreßler and Dressler. I know both are right, but how would a German actually write it (and if it makes a difference, in WWII)? If ß, does that mean that every entry with an ss should be replaced with a ß?

Likewise does oe = ö, etc?

The ulterior motive here is the extra character space that would be freed.

BTW "auf der Mauer" seems a strange surname?

Gizzmoe 01-02-06 09:50 AM

You should only change ae (ä), oe (ö), ue (ü), but not ss to ß, it looks stupid and wouldn´t be done IRL. Normally you wouldn´t change the names at all, "Draeger" and "Dräger" for example are two different surnames.

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BTW "auf der Mauer" seems a strange surname?
Strange, but valid. It´s a very rare surname.

Jochen Mohr 01-02-06 11:36 AM

Strange Surnames:

There was a Commander out Vienna,his Name was Rodler von Roithberg,which is a very strange Name,but an old Title!

Kpt. Lehmann 01-02-06 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JScones
Hehe. May wanna hold five on this. I contacted the maintainer of the crew lists over at http://www.ubootwaffe.net/ seeking permission to use their database. They've given it, and I have just downloaded all 42,002 names. This means a potential for 1,764,168,004 random names. Would that be sufficient?

OMG!!!!

1.76 BILLION!!!! :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Wtg JSCones... I do believe that will be enough to make everyone happy. :ping: :ping: :ping:

CCIP 01-02-06 02:50 PM

:o

For a country that even today only has 80 million people, that ain't too bad :doh:

Hitman 01-02-06 02:52 PM

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Wtg JSCones... I do believe that will be enough to make everyone happy
Nah...let us improve it with the telephone book from the city of Berlin :D

Marhkimov 01-02-06 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hitman
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Wtg JSCones... I do believe that will be enough to make everyone happy
Nah...let us improve it with the telephone book from the city of Berlin :D

So Jaeson, when are you gonna give them a call?

Let's DL from their name database! :D



:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

JScones 01-03-06 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Jochen Mohr
Strange Surnames:

There was a Commander out Vienna,his Name was Rodler von Roithberg,which is a very strange Name,but an old Title!

Yep, ol' Hardo's surname is in the list!

JScones 01-03-06 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Marhkimov
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Originally Posted by Hitman
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Wtg JSCones... I do believe that will be enough to make everyone happy
Nah...let us improve it with the telephone book from the city of Berlin :D

So Jaeson, when are you gonna give them a call?

Let's DL from their name database! :D

Look, I've been meaning to call, but I've just been too busy. Honestly!

Gee, hehe, I haven't used that line since my young, single days. :rotfl:


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