SOPA - Page 6

Penguin · 01-18-12, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

If SOPA/PIPA passes, and some content creator (Ubisoft) decides that mods are infringements of their copyright on Silent Hunter, is it possible that Subsim could be a target of a cease and desist? Shut down even?

And this is what makes the SOPA so ridiculous and reveals the lies of the creators. I think it is already today possible, under current US laws, to do a cease and desist if a site host materials that infringes copyrights.

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

I hate to sound like a cocky American Turd, who thinks the world revolves around us, but this law will hurt the world as a whole.

The crippling of information, is the impedment of human progress.

This is why we are also outraged in Europe, as the majority of DNS servers are located in the US. So a law that some old farts in America propose, people who would certainly print out a webpage by putting their monitors onto a Xerox, would indeed have a global impact.
For example the German Piratenpartei (pirate party) does the same as wiki with their page today, as a sign of solidarity and to show that this law would also cripple us in the Old World.

Platapus · 01-18-12, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Krauter

Wikipedia.. Search something on Wikipedia and it results in something to do with SOPA...

The question is, why be dependent on only one site (wikipedia)?

I do a lot of open source research as part of my job, Wikipedia going down only cause a slight inconvenience.

soopaman2 · 01-18-12, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

The question is, why be dependent on only one site (wikipedia)?

I do a lot of open source research as part of my job, Wikipedia going down only cause a slight inconvenience.

I know your on our side, just using your comments as a jumping off point to encourage thought.

One site in a million, right?

Until another one, and another one.

We get pretty uppity against Euro and American governments here, how long before Mr. Stevens loses his site, because President Palin thinks we are being silly? Or El Jefe, of Crapistan does not like his mass grave photos being distributed, or Chairman Mao don't want good images of the Dalai Lama being shown...(wait, that censorship is already happening)....

Anyways.

I like to trash China and Russia. But that is where most the piracy sites are based...

Maybe we are the authoritarians...

TLAM Strike · 01-18-12, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by soopaman2

OWS is still evil August.

Almost as evil as the NYT!

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Your pic is interfering with my fascism.

^Quote of the day!

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Originally Posted by mookiemookie

If SOPA/PIPA passes, and some content creator (Ubisoft) decides that mods are infringements of their copyright on Silent Hunter, is it possible that Subsim could be a target of a cease and desist? Shut down even?

We all might be hanging out on Subsim.ca at that point.

razark · 01-18-12, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Penguin

AI think it is already today possible, under current US laws, to do a cease and desist if a site host materials that infringes copyrights.

Having worked for a certain server hosting company, Ubisoft wouldn't even need to contact Neal. They can simply send a notice to the company that Neal rents the server from, and that company will unplug the server from the network until such time as the complaint is dealt with.

krashkart · 01-18-12, 06:17 PM

Heard on NPR this afternoon that the bill has lost support in Congress.

reaper7 · 01-18-12, 06:41 PM

Quote "Be a HERO and Help STOP SOPA Now!! I'll tell you How! This Video that Must Be SHARED!"

Kptlt. Neuerburg · 01-18-12, 06:59 PM

<images deleted, NeonSamurai>
Just my two cents.

August · 01-18-12, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by krashkart

Heard on NPR this afternoon that the bill has lost support in Congress.

Yeah in it's present form, but it will be back as sure as casino bills in spite of consistent overwhelming public opposition.

The entertainment industry will happily sue teenagers for millions, to me that says there is no limit to what they will do to maintain their empire of crap.

soopaman2 · 01-18-12, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by August

Yeah in it's present form, but it will be back as sure as casino bills in spite of consistent overwhelming public opposition.

The entertainment industry will happily sue teenagers for millions, to me that says there is no limit to what they will do to maintain their empire of crap.

Yeah, they will bury it in a truly important bill, just so it can't be voted down.

Or they will shove it up our rectums like they did with the Patriot act.
Smile and love it, or you are not patriotic, move to Russia, you America hating swine.

Remember, big brother has your best interests at heart. Now scream at the telescreen. Emmanuel Goldstein is a bad man.

We are at war with Oceania, and winning.
Trust us, trust our news

We are watching...Big brother is watching.

AngusJS · 01-18-12, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rilder

Yeah, pretty much, bloody politicians. Can we start a revolution yet?

That has to be one of the best Downfall videos out there. The Disney line is pure brilliance.

Every American should call their senators and representative about this. I've done it, and it only takes a few minutes. Many of our Congressmen are too stupid or too venal to do the right thing on their own, so you have to do what you can to force them.

Dowly · 01-18-12, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by reaper7

Quote "Be a HERO and Help STOP SOPA Now!! I'll tell you How! This Video that Must Be SHARED!"

Someone posted that earlier already and I must ask the same question I did then:
What exactly is it about? It's definitily has very little to do with SOPA.

TotalBiscuit can give a better explain on what's wrong with that video:

magicstix · 01-18-12, 11:57 PM

http://twitpic.com/88ueqz

PeriscopeDepth · 01-19-12, 01:22 AM

Computers (and especially networked computers) are starting to annoy the people that are actually in charge.

Relevant article ("Lockdown: The coming war on general-purpose computing"):
http://boingboing.net/2012/01/10/lockdown.html

The article is a bit on the extreme side I think, but something to consider when these sorts of restrictions are considered being made law by one of the most powerful countries on the planet.

PD

TarJak · 01-19-12, 03:39 AM

SOPA like all censorship is a bad idea. Hope the US congress comes to its senses and kicks this one to the kerb.

01-18-12, 06:17 PM	#81
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	Heard on NPR this afternoon that the bill has lost support in Congress. __________________ sent from my fingertips using a cheap keyboard

01-18-12, 06:59 PM	#83
Kptlt. Neuerburg Admiral Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Florida Posts: 2,279 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	<images deleted, NeonSamurai> Just my two cents. __________________ "When you're born into this world, you're given a ticket to the freak show. If you're born in America you get a front row seat." - George Carlin Last edited by NeonSamurai; 01-18-12 at 09:18 PM. Reason: Deleting inappropriate images

01-18-12, 06:41 PM	#82
reaper7 sim2reality Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: AM 82 Posts: 2,280 Downloads: 258 Uploads: 30	Quote "Be a HERO and Help STOP SOPA Now!! I'll tell you How! This Video that Must Be SHARED!"

01-18-12, 11:57 PM	#88
magicstix Captain Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Nuclear submarine under the North Pole Posts: 481 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	http://twitpic.com/88ueqz

01-19-12, 01:22 AM	#89
PeriscopeDepth Sea Lord Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Pacific NW Posts: 1,894 Downloads: 6 Uploads: 0	Computers (and especially networked computers) are starting to annoy the people that are actually in charge. Relevant article ("Lockdown: The coming war on general-purpose computing"): http://boingboing.net/2012/01/10/lockdown.html The article is a bit on the extreme side I think, but something to consider when these sorts of restrictions are considered being made law by one of the most powerful countries on the planet. PD

01-19-12, 03:39 AM	#90
TarJak Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 17,052 Downloads: 150 Uploads: 8	SOPA like all censorship is a bad idea. Hope the US congress comes to its senses and kicks this one to the kerb.