Perry.."Evolution is a theory"

Armistead · 08-19-11, 11:19 AM

That is how Perry answered when asked about it being taught. At the same time he believes creation is a fact and should be taught in school.
If evolution is a theory, creation is also a theory. If creation is a matter of faith, do we include it in public schools?

Again, not to argue God exist, but we know species evolve, we know the earth is millions of years old, these are scientific facts. Not saying that God couldn't have started the process, that is a matter of faith.

Perry wants to pray for rain in drought areas, if the rain doesn't come, should we blame God or accept it as part of our changing nature. What if God brings rain to one area, but not the other as such is happening in Texas, are those people getting no rain less in God's eye?

Don't know, but listen to the comments coming from Perry and Bachman, seems they want to force an evangelical doctrine on people through government.

It seems the GOP is leaning towards putting up a radical evangelical, they may do well until the election, then they will lose. It appears the evangelicals hold the GOP hostage. If Perry or Bachman win the ticket, Obama will win again.

Ron Paul would beat Obama, but because he doesn't want to force ideals on others, he again won't have a chance.

Morts · 08-19-11, 12:13 PM

Gravity is also just a theory

antikristuseke · 08-19-11, 12:16 PM

So is electromagnetism.

CaptainMattJ. · 08-19-11, 12:19 PM

If Evolution is "just a theory"

Then Creationism is like a schizophrenic person saying that Turkeys are conspiring against humanity to blow up the sun.

mookiemookie · 08-19-11, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

That is how Perry answered when asked about it being taught. At the same time he believes creation is a fact and should be taught in school.
If evolution is a theory, creation is also a theory. If creation is a matter of faith, do we include it in public schools?

Creationism is indeed a matter of faith, and cannot be proved or disproved using the scientific method. Therefore it has no business being within 100 miles of a science classroom. Sunday school, yes. Science, no.

Perry is also wrong. Creationism is not taught in Texas schools, as it would be unconstitutional to do so. I'm sure many teachers in the buckle of the Bible belt teach it in their classrooms with a wink and a smile though.

TLAM Strike · 08-19-11, 12:20 PM

as is the Theory of Thermodynamics

Betonov · 08-19-11, 12:20 PM

Evolution IS a theory and creation IS a fact.
Only that evolution is a theory founded on facts, evidence and conforms with every law of physics and biology. It's the loose ends and missing links that prevent it from being a fact.
Creationism is a fact. A fake fact, it's based on unproven imposible asumptions devised by cavemen eons ago and then handed down from generation to generation until someone decided to write it down. You can't even prove it phylosophically, let alone scientifically. It's purely religius and has no place in schools or goverment.

Growler · 08-19-11, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainMattJ.

...Turkeys are conspiring against humanity to blow up the sun.

They're not? Damn. Wrong bet again.

Osmium Steele · 08-19-11, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Don't know, but listen to the comments coming from Perry and Bachman, seems they want to force an evangelical doctrine on people through government.

Same straw man, different source. I expect better from Ron Paul supporters.

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Originally Posted by Armistead

If Perry or Bachman win the ticket, Obama will win again.

Opinion, spoken as fact, does not make it so.

Barrack barely beat McCain when a majority of the american people wanted to believe in him. The bloom is so far off that rose that the rose has wilted and died. No one is falling for his rhetoric anymore. Witness his latest "White like me" bus tour. Literally dozens of people attended his stops. Polite applause. None of the adoring crowds of the campaign, and certainly no fainting. It was so embarassing that the MSM barely covered it.

I believe even a Libertarian could beat BHO in 2012 if the GOP didn't pick a nominee.

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Originally Posted by Armistead

Ron Paul would beat Obama, but because he doesn't want to force ideals on others, he again won't have a chance.

Based on the Iowa Straw Poll, if you think Ron Paul could beat BHO, then Perry certainly can, and Bachman aint too far behind. There are too many blue states in play this cycle. BHO is not going to be re-elected barring some major shenanigans on his part.

This last bit keeps me awake at night.

Sailor Steve · 08-19-11, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Growler

They're not? Damn. Wrong bet again.

Actually they are. And you can trust me, because we're not schizophrenic.

TLAM Strike · 08-19-11, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Growler

They're not? Damn. Wrong bet again.

No but the forces of Global Chickenism are conspiring against us all...

Growler · 08-19-11, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Osmium Steele

BHO is not going to be re-elected barring some major shenanigans on his part.

This last bit keeps me awake at night.

I heard this exact sentiment expressed in 2004; the only difference was the initals.

Growler · 08-19-11, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Actually they are. And you can trust me, because we're not schizophrenic.

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

No but the forces of Global Chickenism are conspiring against us all...

Well? Which is it? I got money on this question!

When my nephews were riding out West to work the Colorado and Arizona Rennaissance Festivals, they swore during the trip through Kansas that it was actually the first enclave of the cow overlords, and that the cows had risen up and imprisoned the humans to be the cows' slaves, and that the cows' dumb demeanor was only a trap to lull the rare passers-by into a false sense of security to make the cows' eventual global domination that much easier to accomplish.

Last time I heard from them, they were in Topeka.

Osmium Steele · 08-19-11, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Growler

I heard this exact sentiment expressed in 2004; the only difference was the initals.

Anybody who called that election prior to election night was an idiot, or engaging in a bit of wishful thinking.

TLAM Strike · 08-19-11, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Growler

Well? Which is it? I got money on this question!

When my nephews were riding out West to work the Colorado and Arizona Rennaissance Festivals, they swore during the trip through Kansas that it was actually the first enclave of the cow overlords, and that the cows had risen up and imprisoned the humans to be the cows' slaves, and that the cows' dumb demeanor was only a trap to lull the rare passers-by into a false sense of security to make the cows' eventual global domination that much easier to accomplish.

Last time I heard from them, they were in Topeka.

Sorry to say but your nephews are already dead. Best way to avenge their deaths are to eat as much beef as possible.

08-19-11, 11:19 AM	#1
Armistead Rear Admiral Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: on the Dan Posts: 10,880 Downloads: 364 Uploads: 0	Perry.."Evolution is a theory" That is how Perry answered when asked about it being taught. At the same time he believes creation is a fact and should be taught in school. If evolution is a theory, creation is also a theory. If creation is a matter of faith, do we include it in public schools? Again, not to argue God exist, but we know species evolve, we know the earth is millions of years old, these are scientific facts. Not saying that God couldn't have started the process, that is a matter of faith. Perry wants to pray for rain in drought areas, if the rain doesn't come, should we blame God or accept it as part of our changing nature. What if God brings rain to one area, but not the other as such is happening in Texas, are those people getting no rain less in God's eye? Don't know, but listen to the comments coming from Perry and Bachman, seems they want to force an evangelical doctrine on people through government. It seems the GOP is leaning towards putting up a radical evangelical, they may do well until the election, then they will lose. It appears the evangelicals hold the GOP hostage. If Perry or Bachman win the ticket, Obama will win again. Ron Paul would beat Obama, but because he doesn't want to force ideals on others, he again won't have a chance.

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CaptainMattJ. The Old Man Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Sin City Posts: 1,364 Downloads: 55 Uploads: 0	If Evolution is "just a theory" Then Creationism is like a schizophrenic person saying that Turkeys are conspiring against humanity to blow up the sun. __________________ A popular Government without popular information nor the means of acquiring it, is but a Prologue to a Farce or a Tragedy or perhaps both. Knowledge will forever govern ignorance, and a people who mean to be their own Governors must arm themselves with the power knowledge gives - James Madison

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TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	as is the Theory of Thermodynamics __________________

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Morts Admiral Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Denmark Posts: 2,395 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	Gravity is also just a theory

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antikristuseke Silent Hunter Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Estland Posts: 4,330 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	So is electromagnetism.

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Betonov Navy Seal Join Date: May 2009 Location: Slovenia Posts: 8,647 Downloads: 26 Uploads: 0	Evolution IS a theory and creation IS a fact. Only that evolution is a theory founded on facts, evidence and conforms with every law of physics and biology. It's the loose ends and missing links that prevent it from being a fact. Creationism is a fact. A fake fact, it's based on unproven imposible asumptions devised by cavemen eons ago and then handed down from generation to generation until someone decided to write it down. You can't even prove it phylosophically, let alone scientifically. It's purely religius and has no place in schools or goverment.