A mod like GWX for SH4? - Page 2

Daniel Prates · 07-25-11, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeFF

I beg to differ on that.

That is just the way I feel about it.

Ducimus · 07-25-11, 06:25 PM

Well, if you feel the mods available aren't good enough for you, there's nothing stopping you from getting into the files and fixing them yourself.

AVGWarhawk · 07-26-11, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rickgren

Hey all, was wondering if there was a mod like GWX for SH4
thanks

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...p?do=cat&id=10

Rockin Robbins · 07-26-11, 06:27 PM

I for one do not equate eyecandy with realism. And I find the long loading times, mod fragility, AI side effects, inability to easily swap modules in and out with JSGME game killers.

Compared to that TMO is small, installs in seconds with JSGME, plays well with some others, doesn't slow SH4 down and packs a huge gameplay punch. It has eyecandy that you will see every day. It does NOT have eyecandy you might see once in a career.

Like I said in a post above, TMO and RFB were consciously NOT designed to replicate GWX. They were made by people who had what they considered better ideas.

Calling any of them realistic is truly laughable. There is NOTHING realistic about GWX, RFB or TMO. You can't get wet, you never buy fuel, machinery never breaks, your sonar man works for the IJN, there are no wolfpacks, you cannot talk to Admiral Donitz, you cannot move torpedoes from the bow torpedo room to the aft torpedo room or vice versa, nobody smells and you can't die. I haven't even scratched half a percent of the surface. Nobody can call either sub sim in any of its mod configurations more than a couple percent realistic. You're beating a dead horse.

07-26-11, 06:45 PM

GWX was a Mod for SH3 based on what was known of the SH3 files at that time.
I don't consider it the 'BEST' nor the end all be all for SH3.
Nor do I feel compareing what the SH4 Modders did,
as to what GWX Team did,
as a straight line thing.
They are different Games, different files, A different AO.
Also a different way of doing things, which the SH4 Modders set out to do and pulled off in a very nice way.

Please stop compareing the SH4 Mods with SH3 GWX!
I find it insulting to them and to myself.

Rockin Robbins · 07-26-11, 06:50 PM

Not only that but you just can't do it! Mods were NEVER made to imitate each other. Each has its distinct personality and that is what makes each of them special.

And each of them has at least one person and some have dozens of people who have invested their talents for months to make them work the way they do. Saying one is better is just an insult to the hard work that went into all of them and doubly an insult to the modder(s) who made the one you like best.

AVGWarhawk · 07-27-11, 09:48 AM

Answering the OP question.

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/down...p?do=cat&id=10

CptChacal · 07-28-11, 10:27 AM

Begun, the subsim wars have.

AVGWarhawk · 07-28-11, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CptChacal

Begun, the subsim wars have.

There is no rebellion Yoda.

Ducimus · 07-28-11, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by CptChacal

Begun, the subsim wars have.

No they haven't. Privateer was on the GWX team. Read what he posted, of which i agree with.

AVGWarhawk · 07-28-11, 12:18 PM

These are not the modders you are looking for.

I crack myself up sometimes.

Daniel Prates · 07-28-11, 01:27 PM

Hehehe... 'move along, move along'.

Rockin Robbins · 07-28-11, 05:54 PM

However I will readily admit that Slightly Subnuclear Mark 14s and Cuties is not as realistic or immersive as GWX, RFB, TMO, GFO, IBM or HP.

I feel terrible about it. REALLY!

Sailor Steve · 07-28-11, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I crack myself up sometimes.

Not hard to do when you were cracked in the first place.

Good one, though.

lurker_hlb3 · 07-28-11, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Ducimus

No they haven't. Privateer was on the GWX team. Read what he posted, of which i agree with.

I also agree with this!

07-26-11, 06:27 PM	#19
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	I for one do not equate eyecandy with realism. And I find the long loading times, mod fragility, AI side effects, inability to easily swap modules in and out with JSGME game killers. Compared to that TMO is small, installs in seconds with JSGME, plays well with some others, doesn't slow SH4 down and packs a huge gameplay punch. It has eyecandy that you will see every day. It does NOT have eyecandy you might see once in a career. Like I said in a post above, TMO and RFB were consciously NOT designed to replicate GWX. They were made by people who had what they considered better ideas. Calling any of them realistic is truly laughable. There is NOTHING realistic about GWX, RFB or TMO. You can't get wet, you never buy fuel, machinery never breaks, your sonar man works for the IJN, there are no wolfpacks, you cannot talk to Admiral Donitz, you cannot move torpedoes from the bow torpedo room to the aft torpedo room or vice versa, nobody smells and you can't die. I haven't even scratched half a percent of the surface. Nobody can call either sub sim in any of its mod configurations more than a couple percent realistic. You're beating a dead horse. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS Last edited by Rockin Robbins; 07-27-11 at 08:12 PM.

07-26-11, 06:50 PM	#21
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	Not only that but you just can't do it! Mods were NEVER made to imitate each other. Each has its distinct personality and that is what makes each of them special. And each of them has at least one person and some have dozens of people who have invested their talents for months to make them work the way they do. Saying one is better is just an insult to the hard work that went into all of them and doubly an insult to the modder(s) who made the one you like best. __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

07-28-11, 12:18 PM	#26
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,277 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	These are not the modders you are looking for. I crack myself up sometimes. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

07-28-11, 05:54 PM	#28
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,900 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	However I will readily admit that Slightly Subnuclear Mark 14s and Cuties is not as realistic or immersive as GWX, RFB, TMO, GFO, IBM or HP. I feel terrible about it. REALLY! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

07-25-11, 06:25 PM	#17
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Well, if you feel the mods available aren't good enough for you, there's nothing stopping you from getting into the files and fixing them yourself.

07-26-11, 06:45 PM	#20
Madox58 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	GWX was a Mod for SH3 based on what was known of the SH3 files at that time. I don't consider it the 'BEST' nor the end all be all for SH3. Nor do I feel compareing what the SH4 Modders did, as to what GWX Team did, as a straight line thing. They are different Games, different files, A different AO. Also a different way of doing things, which the SH4 Modders set out to do and pulled off in a very nice way. Please stop compareing the SH4 Mods with SH3 GWX! I find it insulting to them and to myself.

07-28-11, 10:27 AM	#23
CptChacal Seaman Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 38 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 0	Begun, the subsim wars have.

07-28-11, 01:27 PM	#27
Daniel Prates Grey Wolf Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Curitiba, Brazil Posts: 938 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	Hehehe... 'move along, move along'.