Coloured Triangle Markers

Andrea-Jayne · 11-21-05, 03:33 PM

Hi people,

In the periscope and also in the UZO view you get a trianlge when the cursor hovers over the ship. These are often different colours:

Yellow
Green
Red

Is there a reason (there must be) why there are different colours?

Andrea-Jayne x

Marhkimov · 11-21-05, 03:52 PM

First things first, the triangles are "on" because you are playing on automatic targetting mode. Those triangles are "off" if you play full manual targetting. They will only appear if you lock the deckgun or AA gun to the target.

Basically, the triangle colors represent the effectiveness of the torpedo shot if you are to fire at that precise moment. It takes into account range to target, gyro angle, and AOB.

Red means bad chance of successful attack.
Yellow means ok chance of successful attack.
Green means good chance of successful attack.

But with that being said, I think the triangles are nonsensical B.S.. Even if I played on auto (which I don't), I woundn't listen to those things. Use your own instincts and fire whenever you feel like you can hit the target. "Use the force, Andrea-Jayne." Hahaha. :rotfl:

Cheers!
Marhkimov.

Andrea-Jayne · 11-21-05, 03:56 PM

Thank you for that perfect explaination. Maybe one day I will graduate to being "triangle - less"!

Andrea-Jayne x

Trav_R · 11-21-05, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrea-Jayne

Thank you for that perfect explaination. Maybe one day I will graduate to being "triangle - less"!

Andrea-Jayne x

You should, it's pretty fun. At first when you do all the reading it seems like it's going to hurt your head, but really it doesn't. The way I do it there is only one bit of math, a simple division, and the rest is just eyeballing it. It's just as accurate too.

Marhkimov · 11-21-05, 05:09 PM

Yep, I started out using the full manual targeting. I never liked the idea of automatic targeting. Real captains did not have the luxury of using such a tool, so that made the decision easy for me. Full manual all the way; live or die by my own wits.

Don't get me wrong, though. That doesn't mean that I was any good at it. No no no. It was the exact opposite. At first, it was a world of frustration. Seriously, in the Naval Academy I could not hit ships moving at 2 knots. I was THAT bad.

But I stuck with it, knowing that it would probably get easier, sooner rather than later.

That was months ago. Since then I've learned all the angle calculation techniques and such. Sometimes it gets tedious, but after a while of that, it becomes fun. Once you can rely on your captain's intuition is when the real excitement begins.

Though I know all of the calculations, the only thing I do now is the 3:15 rule. It's so that I can measure the target speed. For me, I just guess the AOB and range, and so far I've been pretty good with that. I hardly ever miss-fire a torpedo... If I do, it's because I should be sleeping rather than playing SH3...

Trav_R · 11-21-05, 07:29 PM

Have you ever tried an easier way of calculating speed? This is the way I do it, it takes 20-30 seconds and is plenty accurate. ID the ship, and note its length. Put the crosshair just ahead of the ship and leave it. Start the stopwatch as soon as the bow crosses the crosshair, and stop it again as the stern passes it. The ship has traveled its entire length in that amount of time. Divide length by time, and you get meters per second. Divide that by .514, and you have knots! Piece of cake, and as long as the target's AOB is 30-50 or more, it's extremely accurate.

Marhkimov · 11-21-05, 07:36 PM

It would work if we are sitting still in the water. But if we're moving, it won't take u-boat speed into account, right?

Or does it even matter if we're moving or not?

Trav_R · 11-21-05, 08:58 PM

Using that method you have to be at all stop, but I do all my launches from all stop anyway. Only takes a second to stop, get the speed, and then get moving again if you still need to move. If you're asking if the TDC takes your speed into account, man I wouldn't know, I seem to hit things okay when I am still moving, so it must not be too big a deal.

Marhkimov · 11-21-05, 09:04 PM

Oh ok, i get it... It works only from a stop.

And yes, TDC takes u-boat speed into account.

BTW, nice avatar. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

Trav_R · 11-21-05, 09:20 PM

How did I get stuck with this horrible thing???

I thought the medic was bad, and then this? I've never even seen this thing before!

Marhkimov · 11-21-05, 09:22 PM

Good thing it's gone...

Hartmann · 11-21-05, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trav_R

How did I get stuck with this horrible thing???

I thought the medic was bad, and then this? I've never even seen this thing before!

a wild night in bankog ??? :rotfl: :rotfl:

Trav_R · 11-21-05, 11:53 PM

Yeah that was the one

Inajira · 11-22-05, 02:24 AM

Talking about triangles and stuff, does anyone know how to get rid of the little green gun icon beneath an aircraft that is being targeted by your gunners? Ruins my nice little screenshots of aircraft going down in flames through my binoculars

Marhkimov · 11-22-05, 02:26 AM

It's in one of the texture files, but it's pretty useful if you ask me... but I can understand if you wanna get rid of it for screenshots.

11-21-05, 03:33 PM	#1
Andrea-Jayne Watch Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 21 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Coloured Triangle Markers Hi people, In the periscope and also in the UZO view you get a trianlge when the cursor hovers over the ship. These are often different colours: Yellow Green Red Is there a reason (there must be) why there are different colours? Andrea-Jayne x __________________ A girl can command a sub in this virtual world. Wearing garter belt and stockings makes it even more enjoyable!

11-21-05, 03:52 PM	#2
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	First things first, the triangles are "on" because you are playing on automatic targetting mode. Those triangles are "off" if you play full manual targetting. They will only appear if you lock the deckgun or AA gun to the target. Basically, the triangle colors represent the effectiveness of the torpedo shot if you are to fire at that precise moment. It takes into account range to target, gyro angle, and AOB. Red means bad chance of successful attack. Yellow means ok chance of successful attack. Green means good chance of successful attack. But with that being said, I think the triangles are nonsensical B.S.. Even if I played on auto (which I don't), I woundn't listen to those things. Use your own instincts and fire whenever you feel like you can hit the target. "Use the force, Andrea-Jayne." Hahaha. :rotfl: Cheers! Marhkimov. __________________ It takes two to tango

11-21-05, 03:56 PM	#3
Andrea-Jayne Watch Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: UK Posts: 21 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Thank you for that perfect explaination. Maybe one day I will graduate to being "triangle - less"! Andrea-Jayne x __________________ A girl can command a sub in this virtual world. Wearing garter belt and stockings makes it even more enjoyable!

11-21-05, 05:09 PM	#5
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yep, I started out using the full manual targeting. I never liked the idea of automatic targeting. Real captains did not have the luxury of using such a tool, so that made the decision easy for me. Full manual all the way; live or die by my own wits. Don't get me wrong, though. That doesn't mean that I was any good at it. No no no. It was the exact opposite. At first, it was a world of frustration. Seriously, in the Naval Academy I could not hit ships moving at 2 knots. I was THAT bad. But I stuck with it, knowing that it would probably get easier, sooner rather than later. That was months ago. Since then I've learned all the angle calculation techniques and such. Sometimes it gets tedious, but after a while of that, it becomes fun. Once you can rely on your captain's intuition is when the real excitement begins. Though I know all of the calculations, the only thing I do now is the 3:15 rule. It's so that I can measure the target speed. For me, I just guess the AOB and range, and so far I've been pretty good with that. I hardly ever miss-fire a torpedo... If I do, it's because I should be sleeping rather than playing SH3... __________________ It takes two to tango

11-21-05, 07:36 PM	#7
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It would work if we are sitting still in the water. But if we're moving, it won't take u-boat speed into account, right? Or does it even matter if we're moving or not? __________________ It takes two to tango

11-21-05, 07:29 PM	#6
Trav_R Ensign Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oklahoma, USA Posts: 227 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Have you ever tried an easier way of calculating speed? This is the way I do it, it takes 20-30 seconds and is plenty accurate. ID the ship, and note its length. Put the crosshair just ahead of the ship and leave it. Start the stopwatch as soon as the bow crosses the crosshair, and stop it again as the stern passes it. The ship has traveled its entire length in that amount of time. Divide length by time, and you get meters per second. Divide that by .514, and you have knots! Piece of cake, and as long as the target's AOB is 30-50 or more, it's extremely accurate.

11-21-05, 08:58 PM	#8
Trav_R Ensign Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oklahoma, USA Posts: 227 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Using that method you have to be at all stop, but I do all my launches from all stop anyway. Only takes a second to stop, get the speed, and then get moving again if you still need to move. If you're asking if the TDC takes your speed into account, man I wouldn't know, I seem to hit things okay when I am still moving, so it must not be too big a deal.

11-21-05, 09:04 PM	#9
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Oh ok, i get it... It works only from a stop. And yes, TDC takes u-boat speed into account. BTW, nice avatar. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: __________________ It takes two to tango

11-21-05, 09:20 PM	#10
Trav_R Ensign Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oklahoma, USA Posts: 227 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	How did I get stuck with this horrible thing??? I thought the medic was bad, and then this? I've never even seen this thing before!

11-21-05, 09:22 PM	#11
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Good thing it's gone... __________________ It takes two to tango

11-21-05, 11:53 PM	#13
Trav_R Ensign Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Oklahoma, USA Posts: 227 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Yeah that was the one

11-22-05, 02:24 AM	#14
Inajira Loader Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Johannesburg, South Africa Posts: 90 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Talking about triangles and stuff, does anyone know how to get rid of the little green gun icon beneath an aircraft that is being targeted by your gunners? Ruins my nice little screenshots of aircraft going down in flames through my binoculars

11-22-05, 02:26 AM	#15
Marhkimov Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bay Area, California, USA Posts: 2,377 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It's in one of the texture files, but it's pretty useful if you ask me... but I can understand if you wanna get rid of it for screenshots. __________________ It takes two to tango