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Old 04-22-11, 05:58 PM   #1
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Default The curse of Helgoland...

Well i admit it, i did a nono.
I havent played SH3 in about 2 weeks after buying minecraft & Fallout new vegas for the 360.

About an hour or 2 ago i created a new game. 2nd flotilla out of wilhemsaven.
a little in while leaving port, and sailing past that little island of helgoland (I think thats what it is called) i was in the radio room when i got a bunch of damage, medic, and flooding reports in very quick sucession. There was no shake. no noise. no nothing. we didnt hit anything and we were surfaced. I sunk about 5 seconds later.

Is this a bug or am i cursed for putting down this amazing game?
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Old 04-22-11, 06:12 PM   #2
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...and sailing past that little island of helgoland...
Enter at your own risk...

The area is heavily mined by the bad ole Brits.
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Old 04-22-11, 06:23 PM   #3
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Enter at your own risk...

The area is heavily mined by the bad ole Brits.
That may have been it but how did they hit me if i was surfaced? O.o
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Old 04-22-11, 06:46 PM   #4
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That may have been it but how did they hit me if i was surfaced? O.o
Here's a screenshot from the mission editor of the vicinity around Helgoland:



The minefields are set at variable depths, and while most are periscope depth or greater running on the surface is not a guarantee of total safety. This is especially true east of the island where the water is so shallow that the mines are usually quite close to the surface. Also if the sea is rough your keel could dip low enough to make contact.
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Old 04-22-11, 10:32 PM   #5
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Yes give it a wide berth to the East to avoid the mines.
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Depending on the weather you may have made a dive too deep when rolling of a large wave.
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Tis always gratifying to see one's work paying dividends
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Tis always gratifying to see one's work paying dividends
Gratifying to know you had a part in the destruction of fellow Kaleun's U-Boots?
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Gratifying to know you had a part in the destruction of fellow Kaleun's U-Boots?
More a case of gratifying that the Campaign_SCR is working as designed/edited.
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More a case of gratifying that the Campaign_SCR is working as designed/edited.
Ah, just making sure you aren't from the wrong side of the Channel
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Ah, just making sure you aren't from the wrong side of the Channel
Depends on what is considered the 'right' side
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More a case of gratifying that the Campaign_SCR is working as designed/edited.
Well at least now he knows where to point the finger...
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Old 04-23-11, 07:50 PM   #13
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Depends on what is considered the 'right' side
But you Brits always keep to the left...
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But you Brits always keep to the left...
Very true...but when working on the scripting a balance was sought around the parameters of gameplay versus realism.

If Privateer and I had of had our way some of the harbours with large tonnage in them were going to have listening devices as per in RL as well as fully netted off entrances/booms.

Harbour raiding whilst unrealist/historic was balanced against gameplay so in hindsight perhaps we should have released a mod to cover the above if the player wanted it.

What we ended up deciding on was a pretty realistic rendition of the coastal minefields (game constraints permitting) taken from official Admiralty charts given to us by a certain naval author and to the best of my understanding still having not been made public.

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Old 04-24-11, 01:59 PM   #15
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If Privateer and I had of had our way some of the harbours with large tonnage in them were going to have listening devices as per in RL as well as fully netted off entrances/booms.
Listening devices? Can you even simulate these in SH3? I'm intrigued...
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