Arizona Congresswoman Shot in the Head at Public Event

Originally Posted by Vendor

Your post is based Jan 9, after it has happened a bit more,here is link for today,Doctors say Arizona Rep. Gabrielle Giffords is moving both of her legs, her arms and has opened her eyes. With a crowd of friends and family around her bed, Giffords opened..

http://www.foxnews.com/health/2011/0...-surroundings/

Note: Update record, Thu, 13 Jan 2011

Dr. Rhea said she opened her eyes on Jan 9. Not on the day, Jan 12 that the liar Obama said she opened them for the first time. That is the point....Obama is a liar.

Not that it makes a difference at this point, since the Obama lie has been exposed, but you can continue the lie if you wish.

Your own post with its links shows you to be talking total crap, its all there in the words of the doctors themselves.

Dr. Rhea said she opened her eyes on Jan 9. Not on the day, Jan 12 that the liar Obama said she opened them for the first time. That is the point....Obama is a liar.

What did the doctor say about the 12th? Its all there in your "proof" which proved yourself wrong
So all you "exposed" is either your inability to read or your blindness.

But just for you to enjoy

some good old auslanders on about the crazy crap, pure nonsense and hate filled extremism spouted by those on the right.

Originally Posted by Tribesman

Your own post with its links shows you to be talking total crap, its all there in the words of the doctors themselves.

What did the doctor say about the 12th? Its all there in your "proof" which proved yourself wrong
So all you "exposed" is either your inability to read or your blindness.

But just for you to enjoy

some good old auslanders on about the crazy crap, pure nonsense and hate filled extremism spouted by those on the right.

Nothing on the 12th because it was a non-issue for the doctor. Obama claimed it was her first eye opening in his political rally of 12 January. It was a lie.

Do you have trouble with dates? Or just using a post and cover strategy?

Nothing on the 12th because it was a non-issue for the doctor.

You really are blind.

"This is totally different," said Lemole.

What was totally different?
oh yeah, opening her eyes.
but hey maybe its just one doctor talking about that day when you think it was a non issue for the doctors and they didn't say anything
I wonder what Dr Rhee said.

As you heard from the president yesterday, it is true

Damn them doctors for showing you to be a liar third man

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by The Third Man

I see even the left didn't heed Obama's message .. to talk with each other "in a way that heals, not in a way that wounds."

Good, now we can get on with the conflict of vision.

lol typical for his type to get personal because they know they are wrong and can not make substantive arguments, so they attempt to trash someone personally, then complain when their feelings get hurt.Rather amusing actually

[August]

[Bubblehead1980]

Originally Posted by mookiemookie

Your behavior in this thread is especially offensive given the senseless tragedy that occurred. You're using people's deaths to engage in polemics and attempting to play the victim card for your "side". That's a slap in the face to the true victims here.

Have you opened your eyes and seen the world without looking through the lens of the far right? Can you think for yourself instead of taking the shortcut of having someone "analyze the news" and spoon feed you what you should be thinking? Honestly, have you ever objectively read something that conflicted with what you thought you knew the day before? Did it change your mind? Is your mind open to change? Can you get over your confirmation bias and achieve critical thinking?

Or do you read Hannity's blog, or Red State or a bunch of blogs written by people who believe the same things you do, and say that's it, I've got it all figured out. I'm educated, my eyes are wide open. Guess what - you don't, you're not, and they aint. Your comments are inflammatory and shallow and expose you for the political hack you are.

But there is hope. You can educate yourself. But you have to be prepared for some discomfort. You have to be prepared to accept certain ideas. The idea that YOU MAY BE WRONG. And everyone you read MIGHT BE WRONG.

You could do these things and then have something to offer when talking about politics here. But I doubt it. And the worst part is you vote. God help us all.

Wow you get personal on here pretty often, kind of amusing.Not worth a l response other than to point out that it is typical leftist behavior to personally attack someone who disagrees instead of engaging in a genuine debate.I am sure that if you could respond and tell me how the left is not exploiting this tragedy, you would.However, you and I both know(as does everyone else) that you can not because they have been since 30 minutes after this story broke last Saturday.

Bottom line....since you could not offer a legitimate rebuttle, you decided to attack me personally.Again, this does not shock me or bother me really, just amuses me in addition to letting me know you had no response.Again, typical lefty behavior.


Once again, the point of my original post was the left are exploiting this tragedy for political gain, it is disgusting

[tater]

The police records for his previous insanity:
http://www.dailynews.com/breakingnews/ci_17079366

We had a guy in E&M who was totally nuts. I looked at his notes a few times, and while derivations of Maxwell's Equations can look pretty, erm, greek, his notes were clearly unrelated to the class and "crazy" just from a glance (some stuff looked more like runes or hieroglyphs). He asked non-sequiter questions, etc. One day he missed class, and the prof told all of us to watch him, and be prepared to tackle him if he came with a gun or something. We all watched him very carefully. Scary to see those reports and how similar they are to my experience with a nut in class.

Originally Posted by AVGWarhawk

I don't know about the pentocastal/african liberation speech. I kind of get glassy eyed comatose when he starts speaking.

No disrespect to the victims intended.
But I turned the channel and watched '1000 ways to die' for the first time.
What I did see while flipping channels ticked me off more then anything.
Only thing they needed was Balloons.
But maybe I missed those.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by Bubblehead1980

Wow you get personal on here pretty often, kind of amusing.Not worth a l response other than to point out that it is typical leftist behavior to personally attack someone who disagrees instead of engaging in a genuine debate.I am sure that if you could respond and tell me how the left is not exploiting this tragedy, you would.However, you and I both know(as does everyone else) that you can not because they have been since 30 minutes after this story broke last Saturday.

Bottom line....since you could not offer a legitimate rebuttle, you decided to attack me personally.Again, this does not shock me or bother me really, just amuses me in addition to letting me know you had no response.Again, typical lefty behavior.


Once again, the point of my original post was the left are exploiting this tragedy for political gain, it is disgusting

I ask if you're capable of seeing things without classifying the world in terms of left vs. right, us vs. them, cowboys vs. indians, Red Sox vs. Yankees, my opinion vs. wrong....

...and you call me a lefty. I now have my answer.

I'll drop this whole thing, but I'll leave you with this - don't you find it troubling that some of the most level headed and well respected folks around here have chided you?

[tater]

My only real problem with Obama's speech was that while the bit about "tone" was OK, having it at the memorial connects it to the crime. It would have been better to explicitly mention that tone has wrongfully come up, and while it is a good discussion for the nation to have, it is unrelated.

Mentioning tone at all was in fact giving it credence that it does not deserve.

[CaptainHaplo]

TTM - you gotta stop feeding tribesman - he lives to troll...

In case anyone else however was struggling - it was reported on October 9 that "she could open her eyes and respond to simple commands Sunday - an encouraging sign, said Rhee said."

Obamain his speech stated:
I have just come from the University Medical Center, just a mile from here, where our friend Gabby courageously fights to recover even as we speak. And I want to tell you -- her husband Mark is here and he allows me to share this with you -- right after we went to visit, a few minutes after we left her room and some of her colleagues in Congress were in the room, Gabby opened her eyes for the first time. (Applause.) Gabby opened her eyes for the first time. (Applause.)

This was not the "first time", according to her doctors she had been able to do for at least 3 days... And his announcement was made to a "cheering throng" of college students who turned a memorial into slain victims into a political rally.

Can you say that this was just a "coincidental mis-statement" by the President? Or are we dealing with a man who has gotten so off track that he believes he does rate the "greek temple" in which his adoring minions worshipped him as a god upon winning the presidency?

If you can - watch the video of the speech - watch his pauses and how he looks "over and beyond" the crowd - how he pauses and waits as he basks in the cheers with a solemn mein that indicates it is but what is due to him... Pay attention to how his body language is specifically attuned, and then go watch a speech by Adolph Hitler - another grand orator....

Now - I am not saying he is hitler - I am saying that his mannerism - and his penchant for sensationalism (at the cost of the truth) are reminicent of examples we have in history.

But lets not finish there - look at the text of his speech - a good orator can say things and people miss them - caught up in the moment.....

"Bad things happen, and we have to guard against simple explanations in the aftermath." ahh - the shooter bing a freaking nutcase is too simple of an answer - there must be more to it!

"For the truth is none of us can know exactly what triggered this vicious attack. None of us can know with any certainty what might have stopped these shots from being fired, or what thoughts lurked in the inner recesses of a violent man’s mind. Yes, we have to examine all the facts behind this tragedy. We cannot and will not be passive in the face of such violence"

We can't know what your thinking - so we have to act to make sure you or someone else isn't going to do the same things!

"We should be willing to challenge old assumptions in order to lessen the prospects of such violence in the future." How can we stop violence - I know - someone put forward a new gun control bill! (There is one due to be put forward next week now BTW....)

"let’s use this occasion to expand our moral imaginations" - moral imaginations? What the devil are those? Now "expand our moral" (s) I could understand - since the guy talking is pushing socialized medicine, gays in the military - and soon enough - gay marriage..... Expand em to where you don't have any why don'tcha....


"We may ask ourselves if we’ve shown enough kindness and generosity and compassion to the people in our lives. Perhaps we question whether we're doing right by our children, or our community, whether our priorities are in order" - support my social programs - screw the deficit - the kids WANT to live in debt enforced servitude to the government....

"We recognize our own mortality, and we are reminded that in the fleeting time we have on this Earth, what matters is not wealth, or status, or power, or fame -– but rather, how well we have loved -- (applause)-- and what small part we have played in making the lives of other people better. (Applause.)" Take from the rich - their money doesn't matter - redistribute wealth so we can all "feel better about ourselves"....

The times, they are a changing. Violence is not an acceptable answer at this time, but while the media fawns over his "best speech EVAH!!!!" - we will see how he and his allies continue to act.. Never forget - this is the administration that stated that you should never let a crisis go to waste.....

Brace yourself America.

[mookiemookie]

Originally Posted by CaptainHaplo

Now - I am not saying he is hitler - I am saying that his mannerism - and his penchant for sensationalism (at the cost of the truth) are reminicent of examples we have in history.

"I'm not saying he's Hitler, but his mannerisms are reminiscent of Hitler."

[Tchocky]

A singular interpretation, CH.

In case anyone else however was struggling - it was reported on October 9 that "she could open her eyes and respond to simple commands Sunday - an encouraging sign, said Rhee said."

In case anyone was struggling just look at Dr Rhee and Dr Lemole in the article which links off the one Third man posted.
So then false preacher is it just that you have as many problem understanding a doctors words as you have problems with the bible?

"I was there when she was surrounded by her friends from the Congress and Senate," Lemole said.
"We think it was that combination of the unexpected and the familiar" that triggered Giffords' eye opening, he said.
The presence of her family and the new experience of visits from colleague and the president caused the eye opening, he said.

This was not the "first time",

Both doctors point out that it was the first time, live with it.