Could someone translate this please.

Reece · 11-28-10, 11:49 PM

I have had this letter for sometime and dates back to 1909 (post mark), The first part I assume German but the second half of the letter seems to be in another language.

Since I don't know what either says I would really appreciate it if someone could translate it, both or part.

Many thanks,
Reece.

Rockstar · 11-29-10, 12:01 AM

I think the first part has to do with someone claiming to be an out of work gypsy circus performer wanting to smuggle Llamas out of the country. He hints his desire to find someone that can supply false documents and disguises for the Llamas.

Not sure what the second half is, that's a tough one.

Reece · 11-29-10, 12:04 AM

That is weird!!

nikimcbee · 11-29-10, 12:54 AM

I'll translates:

Dear snoogums (Reece?),

Great news, I found out the medical tests were negative, but I still have a rash. The priest said he had no problems with "your condition", but you may want to pay him some extra money for the marrage endorsement, as the church usually dosn't approve of such actions. My parents are still pretty upset, but as long as you pay child support, my father won't kill you. All the best.

Your luv wallaby.

ETR3(SS) · 11-29-10, 01:26 AM

The second language looks like Greek. That's about all I can help there.

Schroeder · 11-29-10, 05:11 AM

The first handwriting is called Sütterlin. I doubt you will find a lot of people who can still read it. I surely can't.

The second looks Greek indeed.

Reece · 11-29-10, 07:35 AM

Very interesting though the following quote from the wiki:

Quote:

Sütterlin was commissioned to create a modern handwriting script by the Prussian ministry for culture in 1911 and his handwriting scheme gradually replaced the older cursive scripts.

It would seem then since this post card was written in 1909 it is more likely:

Quote:

the old German cursive script developed in the 16th century

, correct me if I'm wrong!

Rockstar's interpretation seems odd as if this were so why would it be on a postcard for all to see, and why is the second part in Greek??

Mysterious!

Penguin · 11-29-10, 07:54 AM

Sorry mate, can't help you either much, as I went to school after 1945...
The first part is definitely german, most likely kurrent handwriting: http://www.kurrent.de/_html/schreibschrift.htm
I can only decipher single words, the letter starts with "Es drängt mich Hr (Herr) z (zu) D...", basically Mr . D... urges the writer to do something.
The second part is (old?) greek, definitely no german.
Maybe you have luck at the axishistory form, there are some people who may be able to read it. Another forum in german is forum-der-wehrmacht.de, you may post there under "bilder und photos", though the board is more about history of ww2, but they are a friendly bunch of guys and many speak english there.

Schroeder · 11-29-10, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Reece

It would seem then since this post card was written in 1909...

Ah, sorry for the false lead then. As I can't read/write either of them they look the same to me.

GoldenRivet · 11-29-10, 09:09 AM

It is in fact German and Greek:

The first half "German" probably says something like

"Hey,

I found this old post card, it belonged to a family member who has long ago passed away. The post card is very very old and brittle. Rather than risk it's destruction by sending it to you, i was wondering if you could translate it for me as i cannot understand what it says and i am quite curious. The post card reads:"

then the Greek part starts, which ironically says:

"Hey,

I found an old letter, it belonged to my grandfather who has died many years ago. I have enclosed the letter in this envelope in the hopes that you could translate it for me. Thank you for your prompt attention on this matter."

and thus begins a long chain of mystery

LOL

Ok i'll leave now

Herr-Berbunch · 11-29-10, 09:13 AM

Don't you just love the subsim community, for the definative answers to all your questions!

Or just to take the piss

GoldenRivet · 11-29-10, 09:16 AM

it drives me crazy not knowing what this thing says quite honestly.

the fact that it is written in 2 different languages might suggest that the two different parts of the message were intended for the eyes of two different people.

Reece · 11-29-10, 09:30 AM

Is that what it says GR, well there ya go!!

Thanks, I think!

GoldenRivet · 11-29-10, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reece

Is that what it says GR

LOL no just being a pain.

I hope you find the answer, as i am quite curious.

Diopos · 11-29-10, 10:02 AM

On the second part:
The letters are mostly Greek with some latin added. It has no meaning whatsoever in Greek. It reads/sounds as a "phonetic" representation of a Germanic (???) text ...

Interesting, indeed!

.

11-28-10, 11:49 PM	#1
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,688 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Could someone translate this please. I have had this letter for sometime and dates back to 1909 (post mark), The first part I assume German but the second half of the letter seems to be in another language. Since I don't know what either says I would really appreciate it if someone could translate it, both or part. Many thanks, Reece. __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

11-29-10, 12:04 AM	#3
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,688 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	That is weird!! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

11-29-10, 12:54 AM	#4
nikimcbee Fleet Admiral Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Patroling the Slot. Posts: 17,952 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	I'll translates: Dear snoogums (Reece?), Great news, I found out the medical tests were negative, but I still have a rash. The priest said he had no problems with "your condition", but you may want to pay him some extra money for the marrage endorsement, as the church usually dosn't approve of such actions. My parents are still pretty upset, but as long as you pay child support, my father won't kill you. All the best. Your luv wallaby. __________________

11-29-10, 01:26 AM	#5
ETR3(SS) Ocean Warrior Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Between test depth and periscope depth Posts: 3,021 Downloads: 175 Uploads: 16	The second language looks like Greek. That's about all I can help there. __________________ USS Kentucky SSBN 737 (G) Comms Div 2003-2006 Qualified 19 November 03 Yes I was really on a submarine.

11-29-10, 05:11 AM	#6
Schroeder Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Banana Republic of Germany Posts: 6,170 Downloads: 62 Uploads: 0	The first handwriting is called Sütterlin. I doubt you will find a lot of people who can still read it. I surely can't. The second looks Greek indeed. __________________ Putting Germ back into Germany.

11-29-10, 12:01 AM	#2
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	I think the first part has to do with someone claiming to be an out of work gypsy circus performer wanting to smuggle Llamas out of the country. He hints his desire to find someone that can supply false documents and disguises for the Llamas. Not sure what the second half is, that's a tough one.

11-29-10, 07:54 AM	#8
Penguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Rheinische Republik Posts: 3,322 Downloads: 92 Uploads: 0	Sorry mate, can't help you either much, as I went to school after 1945... The first part is definitely german, most likely kurrent handwriting: http://www.kurrent.de/_html/schreibschrift.htm I can only decipher single words, the letter starts with "Es drängt mich Hr (Herr) z (zu) D...", basically Mr . D... urges the writer to do something. The second part is (old?) greek, definitely no german. Maybe you have luck at the axishistory form, there are some people who may be able to read it. Another forum in german is forum-der-wehrmacht.de, you may post there under "bilder und photos", though the board is more about history of ww2, but they are a friendly bunch of guys and many speak english there.

11-29-10, 09:09 AM	#10
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	It is in fact German and Greek: The first half "German" probably says something like "Hey, I found this old post card, it belonged to a family member who has long ago passed away. The post card is very very old and brittle. Rather than risk it's destruction by sending it to you, i was wondering if you could translate it for me as i cannot understand what it says and i am quite curious. The post card reads:" then the Greek part starts, which ironically says: "Hey, I found an old letter, it belonged to my grandfather who has died many years ago. I have enclosed the letter in this envelope in the hopes that you could translate it for me. Thank you for your prompt attention on this matter." and thus begins a long chain of mystery LOL Ok i'll leave now __________________

11-29-10, 09:13 AM	#11
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	Don't you just love the subsim community, for the definative answers to all your questions! Or just to take the piss __________________

11-29-10, 09:16 AM	#12
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	it drives me crazy not knowing what this thing says quite honestly. the fact that it is written in 2 different languages might suggest that the two different parts of the message were intended for the eyes of two different people. __________________

11-29-10, 09:30 AM	#13
Reece CINC Pacific Fleet Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Down Under Posts: 34,688 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Is that what it says GR, well there ya go!! Thanks, I think! __________________ *Sub captains go down with their ship!*

11-29-10, 10:02 AM	#15
Diopos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, the original one. Posts: 1,226 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	On the second part: The letters are mostly Greek with some latin added. It has no meaning whatsoever in Greek. It reads/sounds as a "phonetic" representation of a Germanic (???) text ... Interesting, indeed! . __________________ - Oh God! They're all over the place! CRASH DIVE!!! - Ehm... we can't honey. We're in the car right now. - What?... er right... Doesn't matter! We'll give it a try anyway!