Spy!!

10-29-10, 11:07 PM

I believe I have a spy on-board. He is giving away location, destination and other information to the enemy. How do I know? The last 3 patrols have been plagued with destroyers equipped with psychics. The moment I detect a destroyer on the hydrophones, I will ask for silent running, dive deeper at a slow speed, while facing their direction, and then call for a complete stop at a great depth. Every time I do this, they come from 15+ km away, stop within 100-200 meters above, start pinging, and begin dropping depth charges. I must have a suicidal spy on board. I had the radioman shot, but the destroyers keep coming. Who could it be?? Is it the watch officer, in the tower, with the homing device?

It's incredibly ridiculous, and I'm tired of putting up with a cpu that resorts to obvious cheating to up the difficulty. I'm not so much angry, as disgusted with it all, but I will be taking a few weeks off to play other games. Have a happy halloween all!

krashkart · 10-29-10, 11:10 PM

I don't recall ever having that happen. Are you using any mods at all?

10-29-10, 11:56 PM

Nothing that I haven't been running for ages before the last few patrols. GWX3, TMT v2, MaGui 3.4, M.E.P. v3 are the main ones. The others don't change anything but graphics and sound. Same SH3 Commander 3.2 settings as always too.

I blame Colonel Mustard.

Full list:

GWX3
TMT 2
MaGui 3.4
M.E.P. v3 /w optional no stealth meter
GWX3 - Enhanced damage effects
M.E.P. v3
M.E.P. v3 Patch
M.E.P. Visual Sensors-GWX
Lifeboats & Debris
Pascal's Port People
Pascal's Binocular's Black
Real Depth Charge
Seafloor SF V3 Final
Torpedo Damage Final v2
Darker Water for M.E.P.
Bristish Asdic MkI Final
No continuous ship spotted v1.2
Ice Age
Sobers 3D Waves
WB Renown Replacement
GWX - Late war sensors/snorkel antennas
GWX - No ringing bell mod
Skin mod, etc...

Gargamel · 10-30-10, 12:22 AM

Check your crew list for anybody named dinsdale.......

VONHARRIS · 10-30-10, 12:33 AM

Is there any relative of Bernard on your crew? Was the radioman shot on sight or after a trial? Did you have any evidence?

Seriously speaking this is very odd. I aiso use GWX 3.0 and this has never ever happened. Could it be a glitch on your system or a new bug?

Herr-Berbunch · 10-30-10, 06:41 AM

1944 isn't a good year for U-Boats

Sailor Steve · 10-30-10, 10:52 AM

They have radar, which by that time makes it possible to triangulate your exact position.

And speaking of realism, real u-boats couldn't stop at "a great depth" without sinking.

10-30-10, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

They have radar, which by that time makes it possible to triangulate your exact position.

As I stated, I picked them up on hydrophones, which means that I was already underwater. I'm guessing that radar had nothing to do with it.

Tessa · 10-30-10, 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hans Uberman

As I stated, I picked them up on hydrophones, which means that I was already underwater. I'm guessing that radar had nothing to do with it.

Unless you're manually adjusting your speed to 1 kts you aren't really on "silent speed", escorts can still pick you up on hydrophones. Even though the game puts it at 2 kts, it makes a big difference. Have had trawlers or escorts pummel me until I notice I'm running at 2 knots, then switch to one and have seen them instantly loose track of me (even to the point of passing directly over me and doing nothing - early in the war). Later in the time your in it'll take some underwater manuevering and knuckle turns at flank while charges are exploding to get away but won't be impossible if you go back to moving at 1 knot for silent.

10-30-10, 01:42 PM

Yes, I use less than 50 rpm speed quite a bit, and check it with the dials. I doubt they could detect me diving at less than 50 rpm from 15-20 km out, while in a storm, and the engines being pointed away. I also killed the engines entirely before they reached 10km if I'm not mistaken.

raymond6751 · 10-30-10, 02:04 PM

The cook is likely using the decoy ejector to dump waste again.

I'd say it's likely a mod combined with the year. There are guys on the forum who want to create mods with super torpedoes, hi-speed subs, and so on. Perhaps this is an intentional 'joke' put in an otherwise normal mod?

I'd be tempted to examine the files that deal with the sonar detection. Sorry I can't know enough about which files, but someone else here might suggest. You'd be looking for value cranked way out of line.

vienna · 10-30-10, 02:13 PM

"Who could it be?? Is it the watch officer, in the tower, with the homing device?"

Perhaps Colonel Mustard with the lead pipe in the dining room?

Sailor Steve · 10-30-10, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hans Uberman

As I stated, I picked them up on hydrophones, which means that I was already underwater. I'm guessing that radar had nothing to do with it.

Old and blind I am. My bad.

Jimbuna · 10-30-10, 03:38 PM

Have you checked your boat isn't damaged and your not trailing oil?

10-30-10, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbuna

Have you checked your boat isn't damaged and your not trailing oil?

This is a good idea. I was decently damaged during one of my previous patrols, but it was just before expending my last torpedo, and going home. Other than this, I don't recall sustaining any damage, and checking SH3 Commander records, it seems that I did not. The most recent example was at the beginning of a new patrol, and I had not seen combat.

10-29-10, 11:07 PM	#1
Hans Uberman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Spy!! I believe I have a spy on-board. He is giving away location, destination and other information to the enemy. How do I know? The last 3 patrols have been plagued with destroyers equipped with psychics. The moment I detect a destroyer on the hydrophones, I will ask for silent running, dive deeper at a slow speed, while facing their direction, and then call for a complete stop at a great depth. Every time I do this, they come from 15+ km away, stop within 100-200 meters above, start pinging, and begin dropping depth charges. I must have a suicidal spy on board. I had the radioman shot, but the destroyers keep coming. Who could it be?? Is it the watch officer, in the tower, with the homing device? It's incredibly ridiculous, and I'm tired of putting up with a cpu that resorts to obvious cheating to up the difficulty. I'm not so much angry, as disgusted with it all, but I will be taking a few weeks off to play other games. Have a happy halloween all!

10-30-10, 12:22 AM	#4
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Check your crew list for anybody named dinsdale....... __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

10-30-10, 06:41 AM	#6
Herr-Berbunch Kaiser Bill's batman Join Date: May 2010 Location: AN72 Posts: 13,203 Downloads: 76 Uploads: 0	1944 isn't a good year for U-Boats __________________

10-30-10, 10:52 AM	#7
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	They have radar, which by that time makes it possible to triangulate your exact position. And speaking of realism, real u-boats couldn't stop at "a great depth" without sinking. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

10-30-10, 02:04 PM	#11
raymond6751 Admirable Mike Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 1,338 Downloads: 421 Uploads: 0	Blame the cook The cook is likely using the decoy ejector to dump waste again. I'd say it's likely a mod combined with the year. There are guys on the forum who want to create mods with super torpedoes, hi-speed subs, and so on. Perhaps this is an intentional 'joke' put in an otherwise normal mod? I'd be tempted to examine the files that deal with the sonar detection. Sorry I can't know enough about which files, but someone else here might suggest. You'd be looking for value cranked way out of line. __________________ Game Designer: Close The Atlantic - World War Three https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/...orld-war-three

10-29-10, 11:10 PM	#2
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	I don't recall ever having that happen. Are you using any mods at all?

10-29-10, 11:56 PM	#3
Hans Uberman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Nothing that I haven't been running for ages before the last few patrols. GWX3, TMT v2, MaGui 3.4, M.E.P. v3 are the main ones. The others don't change anything but graphics and sound. Same SH3 Commander 3.2 settings as always too. I blame Colonel Mustard. Full list: GWX3 TMT 2 MaGui 3.4 M.E.P. v3 /w optional no stealth meter GWX3 - Enhanced damage effects M.E.P. v3 M.E.P. v3 Patch M.E.P. Visual Sensors-GWX Lifeboats & Debris Pascal's Port People Pascal's Binocular's Black Real Depth Charge Seafloor SF V3 Final Torpedo Damage Final v2 Darker Water for M.E.P. Bristish Asdic MkI Final No continuous ship spotted v1.2 Ice Age Sobers 3D Waves WB Renown Replacement GWX - Late war sensors/snorkel antennas GWX - No ringing bell mod Skin mod, etc...

10-30-10, 12:33 AM	#5
VONHARRIS Konteradmiral Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Greece Posts: 1,992 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 0	Is there any relative of Bernard on your crew? Was the radioman shot on sight or after a trial? Did you have any evidence? Seriously speaking this is very odd. I aiso use GWX 3.0 and this has never ever happened. Could it be a glitch on your system or a new bug?

10-30-10, 01:42 PM	#10
Hans Uberman Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Yes, I use less than 50 rpm speed quite a bit, and check it with the dials. I doubt they could detect me diving at less than 50 rpm from 15-20 km out, while in a storm, and the engines being pointed away. I also killed the engines entirely before they reached 10km if I'm not mistaken.

10-30-10, 02:13 PM	#12
vienna Navy Seal Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Anywhere but the here & now... Posts: 7,713 Downloads: 85 Uploads: 0	"Who could it be?? Is it the watch officer, in the tower, with the homing device?" Perhaps Colonel Mustard with the lead pipe in the dining room?

10-30-10, 03:38 PM	#14
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,552 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Have you checked your boat isn't damaged and your not trailing oil? __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!