Banned from US for Email..

jumpy · 09-15-10, 12:45 PM

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100913/...o-45dbed5.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...herts-11296303

lol

'Sticks and stones' anyone?

Is this an appropriate response, or just a demonstration of how uptight the white house is? (I'm certain our last PM got a lot more abusive emails from home and abroad

)

Is this some kind of Zero tolerance policy, worthy of time and money with your police/fbi etc and out coppers here, just to make a point (what point exactly?) regarding some mouthy teenager?

What do you guys think about it?

Seth8530 · 09-15-10, 12:49 PM

Umm wow lol, thats really stupid ^_^

09-15-10, 12:53 PM

I saw this yesterday. I have been called the same name often. Though I'm not President I certainly wouldn't be so petty as to resort to making the guy persona non grata, if I was President..

It shows a certain insecurity, if not lowering the presidency to level which it shouldn't be.

It is shamefull. And is why the buyers remorse is so high when it comes to Barack H. Obama.

Gerald · 09-15-10, 12:55 PM

Bilge_Rat · 09-15-10, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Third Man

It is shamefull. And is why the buyers remorse is so high when it comes to Barack H. Obama.

They would have done the same for any President.

The kid was stupid and got what he deserved. You are going to send threatening emails to the President of the United States and expect no reaction?

Obama gets 30 death threats a day, more than any other President. The Secret Service can't afford to take chances.

AngusJS · 09-15-10, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Third Man

I saw this yesterday. I have been called the same name often. Though I'm not President I certainly wouldn't be so petty as to resort to making the guy persona non grata, if I was President..

It shows a certain insecurity, if not lowering the presidency to level which it shouldn't be.

It is shamefull. And is why the buyers remorse is so high when it comes to Barack H. Obama.

I'm sure deciding what to do with this kid was #1 on Obama's agenda this week. It's not like HS and the FBI handled it by themselves or anything.

Quote:

Bedfordshire police, who then visited Luke, said the e-mail was full of abusive and threatening language.

You can call the president a prick all you want. You can't threaten him.

JU_88 · 09-15-10, 01:07 PM

17 years old, you'd think he'd have better things to do at that age.
The guy is an idiot.

tater · 09-15-10, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

They would have done the same for any President.

The kid was stupid and got what he deserved. You are going to send threatening emails to the President of the United States and expect no reaction?

Obama gets 30 death threats a day, more than any other President. The Secret Service can't afford to take chances.

This.

You don't make jokes about bombs in airports, and you don't piss off the Secret Service.

XabbaRus · 09-15-10, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bilge_Rat

They would have done the same for any President.

The kid was stupid and got what he deserved. You are going to send threatening emails to the President of the United States and expect no reaction?

Obama gets 30 death threats a day, more than any other President. The Secret Service can't afford to take chances.

Really a 17 year old kid who is being stupid. Like Jumpy said our previous PM more than likely got a hell of a lot more abusive e-mails.

I think it is OTT. But then again he is the US president.

09-15-10, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngusJS

You can call the president a prick all you want. You can't threaten him.

Was a 17 yo, living in Britain, with his parents, with no income of his own, in a position to carryout any threat against Obama? I think not.

Placed on a no-fly list would have stopped him if he was in the position.

jumpy · 09-15-10, 02:16 PM

Would have been interesting to read the said email... could have corrected his grammar perhaps hehe - With the level of literacy here in the UK, I'm surprised any of it was well written enough for you guys over the pond to set the ball rolling for a response; even if it was only to say

DarkFish · 09-15-10, 02:33 PM

Am I the only one who finds this punishment a bit excessive? There are more 17y olds who do stupid things.

As The Third Man says, there is no way he could have possibly done whatever he threatened Obama with (I'm very curious as to what exactly he wrote). So why does he get banned, while if I wrote a threatening letter to a random powerless American, with 99% certainty I wouldn't?

Castout · 09-15-10, 06:22 PM

I started an online contact with one Singaporean person through my blog and he claimed to have been suffering from psychological abuses and psy warfare from his own government(no it wasn't PothePanda).

The thing is he never responded to my advice and counsel by simply ignoring them and proceeded to write whatever he wanted basically saying how terrified he was.

Then he sent lots of emails to lots of organization including the white house, US president email and US homeland security . . . . .asking for asylum.
I received the homeland security reply since my email was on the carbon copy field among the many other mostly organizations and news sites.

By this time I suspected he wasn't a genuine case since he never listened to anything I said. I asked him to prove what he was by coming as instructed by the homeland security to the US soil to begin applying for asylum. He told me he didn't have the money and when told to borrow them from family and relatives he said nobody was willing. Fine I can accept that but in subsequent letter he told me that he feared of flying too that he feared he might have anxiety attacks when flying

This dumb bloke is obviously only trying to make a fuzz about a supposed ordeal that he claimed to be suffering but in my opinion he looked more likely a smoke screen attempt to discredit other genuine cases. He'll end up in the Mental health institution as planned and thus discrediting whatever he said and in the process discrediting future genuine victims as well past victims like myself

Come on a person who fear for his well being due to government actions and wished for an asylum can't overcome fear of flying getting out of the country?!!

The connection to this thread is
In most email response to him I carbon copied the homeland security email to let let them read this man response.
Hope I won't be banned from US all my life

As for the British kid,
I think the kid must be lying that he didn't remember anything that he wrote but the ban is a bit over the edge as it's a lifetime ban. I mean a kid is a kid. But a sweet letter perhaps in some years time will probably fix this if he's found sincere.

TLAM Strike · 09-15-10, 06:30 PM

Just imagine if they kicked out all the Americans who have said nasty things about Obama! We lose 3/4 of the population!

Castout · 09-15-10, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TLAM Strike

Just imagine if they kicked out all the Americans who have said nasty things about Obama! We lose 3/4 of the population!

But they didn't send hate email to the white house

09-15-10, 12:49 PM	#2
Seth8530 Captain Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tennessee Posts: 546 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Umm wow lol, thats really stupid ^_^ __________________

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Gerald SUBSIM Newsman Join Date: May 2008 Location: Close to sea Posts: 24,254 Downloads: 553 Uploads: 0	Something is clearly screwed. __________________ Nothing in life is to be feard,it is only to be understood. Marie Curie

09-15-10, 02:16 PM	#11
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Would have been interesting to read the said email... could have corrected his grammar perhaps hehe - With the level of literacy here in the UK, I'm surprised any of it was well written enough for you guys over the pond to set the ball rolling for a response; even if it was only to say __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

09-15-10, 02:33 PM	#12
DarkFish Sea Lord Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Stinking drunk in Eindhoven, the Netherlands Posts: 1,844 Downloads: 28 Uploads: 0	Am I the only one who finds this punishment a bit excessive? There are more 17y olds who do stupid things. As The Third Man says, there is no way he could have possibly done whatever he threatened Obama with (I'm very curious as to what exactly he wrote). So why does he get banned, while if I wrote a threatening letter to a random powerless American, with 99% certainty I wouldn't? __________________

09-15-10, 06:22 PM	#13
Castout Silent Hunter Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Jakarta Posts: 4,794 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 6	I started an online contact with one Singaporean person through my blog and he claimed to have been suffering from psychological abuses and psy warfare from his own government(no it wasn't PothePanda). The thing is he never responded to my advice and counsel by simply ignoring them and proceeded to write whatever he wanted basically saying how terrified he was. Then he sent lots of emails to lots of organization including the white house, US president email and US homeland security . . . . .asking for asylum. I received the homeland security reply since my email was on the carbon copy field among the many other mostly organizations and news sites. By this time I suspected he wasn't a genuine case since he never listened to anything I said. I asked him to prove what he was by coming as instructed by the homeland security to the US soil to begin applying for asylum. He told me he didn't have the money and when told to borrow them from family and relatives he said nobody was willing. Fine I can accept that but in subsequent letter he told me that he feared of flying too that he feared he might have anxiety attacks when flying This dumb bloke is obviously only trying to make a fuzz about a supposed ordeal that he claimed to be suffering but in my opinion he looked more likely a smoke screen attempt to discredit other genuine cases. He'll end up in the Mental health institution as planned and thus discrediting whatever he said and in the process discrediting future genuine victims as well past victims like myself Come on a person who fear for his well being due to government actions and wished for an asylum can't overcome fear of flying getting out of the country?!! The connection to this thread is In most email response to him I carbon copied the homeland security email to let let them read this man response. Hope I won't be banned from US all my life As for the British kid, I think the kid must be lying that he didn't remember anything that he wrote but the ban is a bit over the edge as it's a lifetime ban. I mean a kid is a kid. But a sweet letter perhaps in some years time will probably fix this if he's found sincere. __________________ My blog: http://exposingsingapore.wordpress.com/

09-15-10, 12:45 PM	#1
jumpy Admiral Join Date: May 2003 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 2,139 Downloads: 22 Uploads: 0	Banned from US for Email.. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20100913/...o-45dbed5.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...herts-11296303 lol 'Sticks and stones' anyone? Is this an appropriate response, or just a demonstration of how uptight the white house is? (I'm certain our last PM got a lot more abusive emails from home and abroad ) Is this some kind of Zero tolerance policy, worthy of time and money with your police/fbi etc and out coppers here, just to make a point (what point exactly?) regarding some mouthy teenager? What do you guys think about it? __________________ when you’ve been so long in the desert, any water, no matter how brackish, looks like life

09-15-10, 12:53 PM	#3
The Third Man Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	I saw this yesterday. I have been called the same name often. Though I'm not President I certainly wouldn't be so petty as to resort to making the guy persona non grata, if I was President.. It shows a certain insecurity, if not lowering the presidency to level which it shouldn't be. It is shamefull. And is why the buyers remorse is so high when it comes to Barack H. Obama.

09-15-10, 01:07 PM	#7
JU_88 Silent Hunter Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: UK Posts: 3,803 Downloads: 11 Uploads: 0	17 years old, you'd think he'd have better things to do at that age. The guy is an idiot.

09-15-10, 06:30 PM	#14
TLAM Strike Navy Seal Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rochester, New York Posts: 8,633 Downloads: 29 Uploads: 6	Just imagine if they kicked out all the Americans who have said nasty things about Obama! We lose 3/4 of the population! __________________