A Speech Every American High School Principal Should Give

STEED · 07-13-10, 11:48 AM

Got this off another forum, as there are so many Americans here what do you think of it?

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0710/prager071310.php3

Looks like a good kick in the teeth to political correctness to me.

Jimbuna · 07-13-10, 11:52 AM

Quite a speech....and one I fear will be impossible to enforce in this day and age.

Never mind America, we could do with some of this in the UK in one or two areas

GoldenRivet · 07-13-10, 11:55 AM

lost me at "I could not care less"

LOL... so you do care at least a little?

but seriously, my thought as an American is, as much as I wish such a speech would be made... i think it would only result in a great number of new School Principal job openings around the nation. Its THAT far gone down the rabbit hole already that i fear there is no recovery.

Moeceefus · 07-13-10, 11:57 AM

I like it.

It's like John Lennon's ideal school. Imagine that.

Sailor Steve · 07-13-10, 12:00 PM

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i think it would only result in a great number of new School Principal job openings around the nation

Hence the wish that every principal would make it. Then there wouldn't be anyone to fill those new openings.

Good speech.

GoldenRivet · 07-13-10, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

Hence the wish that every principal would make it. Then there wouldn't be anyone to fill those new openings.

Good speech.

agreed on the good speech

disagreed on the filling of vacancies.

most any given teacher at any school at any given time has his or her eyes cast on occupying that space behind the principal's desk.

not all mind you.

just most.

tater · 07-13-10, 12:38 PM

The overall point of meritocracy and E pluribus unum is certainly a good one.

Modern PC hold up a standard of "out of many, many." Bah, humbug!

Bort · 07-13-10, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

lost me at "I could not care less"

LOL... so you do care at least a little?

Actually, the way he said "I could not care less" is quite correct. Saying that he could not care less is equivalent to saying that there is no way he could care any less, therefore he does not care at all.

Sorry to correct you, but people saying "I could care less" is one of my biggest pet peeves.

Maybe this page can explain it better than I: The Grammar Vandal: I couldn't care less.

Takeda Shingen · 07-13-10, 01:37 PM

It is an interesting view that extracting political thought from the school would involve injecting an opposing political philosophy.

GoldenRivet · 07-13-10, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bort

Actually, the way he said "I could not care less" is quite correct. Saying that he could not care less is equivalent to saying that there is no way he could care any less, therefore he does not care at all.

Sorry to correct you, but people saying "I could care less" is one of my biggest pet peeves.

Maybe this page can explain it better than I: The Grammar Vandal: I couldn't care less.

ahh yes. I jumped the gun

thats the correct form... what i get for reading thoroughly

(sorry)

i thought i had him!

Just got through watching this when i read that... http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1937402 and i was on a bit of a mission hahaha

Sailor Steve · 07-13-10, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet

agreed on the good speech

disagreed on the filling of vacancies.

most any given teacher at any school at any given time has his or her eyes cast on occupying that space behind the principal's desk.

not all mind you.

just most.

My point wasn't to seriously consider the issue. My point was that if every principal and teacher felt that way there wouldn't be anyone left to feel otherwise.

Wishful thinking on my part, not a claim on the reality.

GoldenRivet · 07-13-10, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

My point wasn't to seriously consider the issue. My point was that if every principal and teacher felt that way there wouldn't be anyone left to feel otherwise.

Wishful thinking on my part, not a claim on the reality.

Oh i understand completely.

Im right there with you on that wishful thinking

tater · 07-13-10, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

It is an interesting view that extracting political thought from the school would involve injecting an opposing political philosophy.

Seems to me that the (roughly speaking) political philosophy proposed is "American." Are you suggesting that the other is non-American?

The idea of the "celebration of difference" is, I'd argue, distinctly un-american. The differences that States recognized back in the days of the Founders were basically STATE differences. They didn't lump people otherwise, that's the beauty of our system.

I have to say, I hate "cultural diversity," I see it as a force for Balkanization. I much prefer the good ole "melting pot" concept. For me cultural diversity means a chorizo burrito for breakfast (is there anything better (this coming from a bacon lover)?), sushi for lunch, and a moroccan tagine for dinner. Anything past that is paying too much attention to arbitrary nonsense.

Sailor Steve · 07-13-10, 02:03 PM

I believe in multiculturalism in the sense that everyone should honor their heritage and never forget where they came from. The Greek and Italian festivals here in Salt Lake each year are something to behold, or should I say something to taste?

But I agree that isolating peoples backgrounds with the purpose of remaining apart from all others is a dangerous game. A friend of mine remembers when he learned to swear in his grandfather's native language. Grampa gave him the end of a cane and shouted "I didn't come to America so you could speak Italian!"

Takeda Shingen · 07-13-10, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tater

Seems to me that the (roughly speaking) political philosophy proposed is "American." Are you suggesting that the other is non-American?

The idea of the "celebration of difference" is, I'd argue, distinctly un-american. The differences that States recognized back in the days of the Founders were basically STATE differences. They didn't lump people otherwise, that's the beauty of our system.

I have to say, I hate "cultural diversity," I see it as a force for Balkanization. I much prefer the good ole "melting pot" concept. For me cultural diversity means a chorizo burrito for breakfast (is there anything better (this coming from a bacon lover)?), sushi for lunch, and a moroccan tagine for dinner. Anything past that is paying too much attention to arbitrary nonsense.

I did not use the words 'American', 'America', 'United' or 'States'. I simply content myself in pointing out that his speech, and your speech, is as political as the speech he was seeking to eliminate. Anything else is as a strawman.

07-13-10, 11:48 AM	#1
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	A Speech Every American High School Principal Should Give Got this off another forum, as there are so many Americans here what do you think of it? http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0710/prager071310.php3 Looks like a good kick in the teeth to political correctness to me. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

07-13-10, 11:52 AM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,539 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Quite a speech....and one I fear will be impossible to enforce in this day and age. Never mind America, we could do with some of this in the UK in one or two areas __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

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GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,726 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	lost me at "I could not care less" LOL... so you do care at least a little? but seriously, my thought as an American is, as much as I wish such a speech would be made... i think it would only result in a great number of new School Principal job openings around the nation. Its THAT far gone down the rabbit hole already that i fear there is no recovery. __________________

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Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	I believe in multiculturalism in the sense that everyone should honor their heritage and never forget where they came from. The Greek and Italian festivals here in Salt Lake each year are something to behold, or should I say something to taste? But I agree that isolating peoples backgrounds with the purpose of remaining apart from all others is a dangerous game. A friend of mine remembers when he learned to swear in his grandfather's native language. Grampa gave him the end of a cane and shouted "I didn't come to America so you could speak Italian!" __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

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Moeceefus 中国水兵 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New York Posts: 278 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I like it. It's like John Lennon's ideal school. Imagine that.

07-13-10, 12:38 PM	#7
tater Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: New Mexico, USA Posts: 9,023 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 2	The overall point of meritocracy and E pluribus unum is certainly a good one. Modern PC hold up a standard of "out of many, many." Bah, humbug!

07-13-10, 01:37 PM	#9
Takeda Shingen Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2000 Posts: 8,643 Downloads: 19 Uploads: 0	It is an interesting view that extracting political thought from the school would involve injecting an opposing political philosophy.