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STEED 07-13-10 11:48 AM
A Speech Every American High School Principal Should Give
 
Got this off another forum, as there are so many Americans here what do you think of it?

http://www.jewishworldreview.com/0710/prager071310.php3

Looks like a good kick in the teeth to political correctness to me.

Jimbuna 07-13-10 11:52 AM
Quite a speech....and one I fear will be impossible to enforce in this day and age.

Never mind America, we could do with some of this in the UK in one or two areas :DL

GoldenRivet 07-13-10 11:55 AM
lost me at "I could not care less"

:nope:

LOL... so you do care at least a little? ;)

but seriously, my thought as an American is, as much as I wish such a speech would be made... i think it would only result in a great number of new School Principal job openings around the nation. Its THAT far gone down the rabbit hole already that i fear there is no recovery.

Moeceefus 07-13-10 11:57 AM
I like it. :yeah: It's like John Lennon's ideal school. Imagine that.

Sailor Steve 07-13-10 12:00 PM
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i think it would only result in a great number of new School Principal job openings around the nation
Hence the wish that every principal would make it. Then there wouldn't be anyone to fill those new openings.

Good speech.

GoldenRivet 07-13-10 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1443213)
Hence the wish that every principal would make it. Then there wouldn't be anyone to fill those new openings.

Good speech.
agreed on the good speech

disagreed on the filling of vacancies.

most any given teacher at any school at any given time has his or her eyes cast on occupying that space behind the principal's desk.

not all mind you.

just most.

tater 07-13-10 12:38 PM
The overall point of meritocracy and E pluribus unum is certainly a good one.

Modern PC hold up a standard of "out of many, many." Bah, humbug!

Bort 07-13-10 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1443206)
lost me at "I could not care less"

:nope:

LOL... so you do care at least a little? ;)
Actually, the way he said "I could not care less" is quite correct. Saying that he could not care less is equivalent to saying that there is no way he could care any less, therefore he does not care at all.

Sorry to correct you, but people saying "I could care less" is one of my biggest pet peeves.

Maybe this page can explain it better than I: The Grammar Vandal: I couldn't care less.

Takeda Shingen 07-13-10 01:37 PM
It is an interesting view that extracting political thought from the school would involve injecting an opposing political philosophy.

GoldenRivet 07-13-10 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Bort (Post 1443272)
Actually, the way he said "I could not care less" is quite correct. Saying that he could not care less is equivalent to saying that there is no way he could care any less, therefore he does not care at all.

Sorry to correct you, but people saying "I could care less" is one of my biggest pet peeves.

Maybe this page can explain it better than I: The Grammar Vandal: I couldn't care less.
ahh yes. I jumped the gun :oops: thats the correct form... what i get for reading thoroughly :doh: (sorry)

i thought i had him!

Just got through watching this when i read that... http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1937402 and i was on a bit of a mission hahaha

Sailor Steve 07-13-10 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GoldenRivet (Post 1443228)
agreed on the good speech

disagreed on the filling of vacancies.

most any given teacher at any school at any given time has his or her eyes cast on occupying that space behind the principal's desk.

not all mind you.

just most.
My point wasn't to seriously consider the issue. My point was that if every principal and teacher felt that way there wouldn't be anyone left to feel otherwise.

Wishful thinking on my part, not a claim on the reality.

GoldenRivet 07-13-10 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve (Post 1443300)
My point wasn't to seriously consider the issue. My point was that if every principal and teacher felt that way there wouldn't be anyone left to feel otherwise.

Wishful thinking on my part, not a claim on the reality.
Oh i understand completely.

Im right there with you on that wishful thinking :salute:

tater 07-13-10 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen (Post 1443282)
It is an interesting view that extracting political thought from the school would involve injecting an opposing political philosophy.
Seems to me that the (roughly speaking) political philosophy proposed is "American." Are you suggesting that the other is non-American?

The idea of the "celebration of difference" is, I'd argue, distinctly un-american. The differences that States recognized back in the days of the Founders were basically STATE differences. They didn't lump people otherwise, that's the beauty of our system.

I have to say, I hate "cultural diversity," I see it as a force for Balkanization. I much prefer the good ole "melting pot" concept. For me cultural diversity means a chorizo burrito for breakfast (is there anything better (this coming from a bacon lover)?), sushi for lunch, and a moroccan tagine for dinner. Anything past that is paying too much attention to arbitrary nonsense.

Sailor Steve 07-13-10 02:03 PM
I believe in multiculturalism in the sense that everyone should honor their heritage and never forget where they came from. The Greek and Italian festivals here in Salt Lake each year are something to behold, or should I say something to taste?

But I agree that isolating peoples backgrounds with the purpose of remaining apart from all others is a dangerous game. A friend of mine remembers when he learned to swear in his grandfather's native language. Grampa gave him the end of a cane and shouted "I didn't come to America so you could speak Italian!"

Takeda Shingen 07-13-10 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by tater (Post 1443310)
Seems to me that the (roughly speaking) political philosophy proposed is "American." Are you suggesting that the other is non-American?

The idea of the "celebration of difference" is, I'd argue, distinctly un-american. The differences that States recognized back in the days of the Founders were basically STATE differences. They didn't lump people otherwise, that's the beauty of our system.

I have to say, I hate "cultural diversity," I see it as a force for Balkanization. I much prefer the good ole "melting pot" concept. For me cultural diversity means a chorizo burrito for breakfast (is there anything better (this coming from a bacon lover)?), sushi for lunch, and a moroccan tagine for dinner. Anything past that is paying too much attention to arbitrary nonsense.
I did not use the words 'American', 'America', 'United' or 'States'. I simply content myself in pointing out that his speech, and your speech, is as political as the speech he was seeking to eliminate. Anything else is as a strawman.


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