New community manager in ubisoft forums - Page 3

elanaiba · 07-07-10, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by robbo180265

In all fairness Dan - the crowd control wouldn't be needed had UBI been honest and up-front from the start.

The months of silence has created a fairly angry mob...

Yes, I agree, as I was saying above.

aergistal · 07-07-10, 03:47 AM

What we needed was an official statement on the future of the game. What we got is a stand-up comedian. And a bad one at it.

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I would have loved to come to you on the first day with excellent news. And get all the women, have all the firstborns named after me, be treated like a God...

geez...

robbo180265 · 07-07-10, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by aergistal

What we needed was an official statement on the future of the game. What we got is a stand-up comedian. And a bad one at it.

geez...

In fairness I think he's trying to "lighten up" the forum and given time it may work (providing we hear more than "I don't know - I'll get back to you")

Nisgeis · 07-07-10, 03:52 AM

I thought everyone had left the Ubi forums and the flow of posts had slowed to a trickle? Or is that just the SH4 crowd?

robbo180265 · 07-07-10, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Nisgeis

I thought everyone had left the Ubi forums and the flow of posts had slowed to a trickle? Or is that just the SH4 crowd?

I still bump this post

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums?a=t...768#6301025768

In the faint hope of a reply - 4 weeks of being fobbed off by forum managers and counting

THE_MASK · 07-07-10, 03:58 AM

It would be good to get just one more tincey wincey patch , even if its just for what TheDarkWraith needs for his AI mod + sub nets and mines .

janh · 07-07-10, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Seeadler

IYesterday the German news magazine "Der Spiegel" did an interview with Ubisoft CEO Yves Guillemot. Guillemot makes it again quite clear, the new Ubisoft marketing strategy will be the Ubisoft-Launcher, massive multiplayer online games and new game concepts for the new motion sensors.

Thanks for the link! That sounds like Ubisoft is really heading away from PC platform games, at least the single player ones. I don't think there is much to expect from them in the future anymore, but maybe they will sell the Silent Hunter label to one of the smaller developers that already focuses on highly detailed realistic simulations and strategy games. There's quite a few of those successful studios right now. (The market can't possible be that small? What is the definition of "small" or "niche" for people that claim simulations and strategy to be a niche? Anything that doesn't sell 1M units on the release date is niche? -- Just some spontaneous thoughts. There is nothing you can't do if you change definitions....)

EDIT: As a side note, in the interview YG says himself that they were disappointed that their OSP-DRM didn't work well in the beginning and it lead to
the server outages. Nice, so much about DDOS attacks.

janh · 07-07-10, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by elanaiba

Of course you can look into everything I say and turn it around to suit an attack, and maybe "we" deserve it.

But it's not my ploy, and its not how I work. In truth I don't think its anyone's ploy, the guy is saying as much as he can in a politically correct form.

My estimate is that you won't get any information from him for a time, but he will get a lot of information from the forums, while also trying to do the 2nd thing he is paid for - crowd control. Kind of hard to do that at this point and in the current situation, as many of you have correctly remarked.

Well, I already wondered why Ubi would pay someone for providing waiting and asking customers with new information regarding the products. But you answered yourself: "crowd control"
Can you imagine that that job sounds a bit, say weired? Manipulative? For a German, that kind of job description has an odd feeling to it. Especially if you do not like to be controlled by anyone or anything. I guess Americans would also have a major problem with that thought. +

What true purpose does Ubi want to solve with "crowd control"? Has Ubi (and other publishers) realized that information about their products, bad and good, spreads nowadays much faster on the internet than it did 15 years ago with the printed PC magazines? Particularly the bad? Well, then I would say there is no need for a crowd control to subdue negative tensions, because the ranting negatives will be filtered out by the masses anyway (people are not stupid, and will find their way to the truth). And there is no need for a crowd control to generate positive emotions about a product -- if it is truly good, people will quickly now and publishers will have their loyal customers (as it was always in the past).

What needs to be learned is that if something ain't good, novel, interesting, that publishers need to invest more in better dev teams, and get better products out. I am a bit worried that big publishers like Ubi, after having targeted piracy extensively without a breakthru (as the "guess-timated" effect of piracy was based on false assumptions, and now despite piracy on the decline no significant increase in sales occurred), will target online communities next to control the opinions voiced there... It just has become to crucial in this market. And along the lines of fighting low sales instead with better quality and customer service with DRM, I assume they could next try to control media better. Hopefully hat will work less on the internet as it works with the printed magazines, that often enough today admit that only get test copies if certain "ratings" can be assured. Hmmh, I am worried a bit.

Yosarian · 07-07-10, 06:56 AM

I'm done with Ubisoft, no matter which person they present now, I'll basically do not buy Ubisoft games from now and I play many different game genres not only subsims.

Ubisoft and all there employed had their chance, I do not need them but they need customers for their products... I am no longer one of those.

Moeceefus · 07-07-10, 07:25 AM

I love this quote from Sorlim

"Making a decision to not make a decision would still involve a decision-making process and such a thing has not happened.
The "until now" part means a clear decision should come."

Jimbuna · 07-07-10, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Takeda Shingen

Yes, there is finally some movement on the SH5 front, but it is too early to get excited. More to the immediate point, I have empathy for sorlim. The fallout from SH5 made for a bumpy few months here on SubSim, and a rough time to be in the moderator chair. At least there were several of us working together and we had Neal, who is just a first-rate site owner and administrator. Still, we were only third parties; sorlim will have to actually defend the product, something that we never had to do, as he is the face of the company on that forum. Moreover, he will have to go it alone; not an enviable position by any account. The guy needs a team.

I agree....he could do with some help and support.

Sailor Steve · 07-07-10, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by elanaiba

Yes, I agree, as I was saying above.

Hey Dan! It's good to hear from you again. I hope things are going well for you on the home front.

TDK1044 · 07-07-10, 08:36 AM

That poor Community Manager over there is getting the same treatment that Congress gave the BP CEO.

AVGWarhawk · 07-07-10, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TDK1044

That poor Community Manager over there is getting the same treatment that Congress gave the BP CEO.

The only difference is that Congress was in the driver seat and commanded answers to their questions. Community members are only riding the bus. The questions go left unanswered or glossed over. However, he is a Community Manager not a reporter on what if anything is going on with patches. So what is he really there for? Manage/moderate the community or be the go between for any patch information? Both? I think he is just there to manage and should not have his feet held to fire for patch information.

Faamecanic · 07-07-10, 11:27 AM

I LMAO at Privateer's response in that thread

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Posted Tue July 06 2010 17:37 Hide Post"A decision has not been made until now IF a patch will be release OR IF no future patch will come."

Now that's pretty clear to me.
The 'until now' says it all!
The decision was just made to make no decision!
Duhhh!"

07-07-10, 03:52 AM	#34
Nisgeis Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 2,909 Downloads: 77 Uploads: 11	I thought everyone had left the Ubi forums and the flow of posts had slowed to a trickle? Or is that just the SH4 crowd? __________________ -------------------------------- This space left intentionally blank.

07-07-10, 03:58 AM	#36
THE_MASK Ace of the deep . Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 9,226 Downloads: 901 Uploads: 73	It would be good to get just one more tincey wincey patch , even if its just for what TheDarkWraith needs for his AI mod + sub nets and mines .

07-07-10, 06:56 AM	#39
Yosarian Seaman Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 35 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I'm done with Ubisoft, no matter which person they present now, I'll basically do not buy Ubisoft games from now and I play many different game genres not only subsims. Ubisoft and all there employed had their chance, I do not need them but they need customers for their products... I am no longer one of those.

07-07-10, 07:25 AM	#40
Moeceefus 中国水兵 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: New York Posts: 278 Downloads: 43 Uploads: 0	I love this quote from Sorlim "Making a decision to not make a decision would still involve a decision-making process and such a thing has not happened. The "until now" part means a clear decision should come."

07-07-10, 08:36 AM	#43
TDK1044 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 2,674 Downloads: 25 Uploads: 0	That poor Community Manager over there is getting the same treatment that Congress gave the BP CEO.

07-07-10, 11:27 AM	#45
Faamecanic Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Off your Stb side with good solution Posts: 1,065 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	I LMAO at Privateer's response in that thread " Posted Tue July 06 2010 17:37 Hide Post"A decision has not been made until now IF a patch will be release OR IF no future patch will come." Now that's pretty clear to me. The 'until now' says it all! The decision was just made to make no decision! Duhhh!"