reducing air traffic in sh4/tmo

UdiHrant · 06-22-10, 08:31 PM

Does anyone know of a way of tweeking the game to reduce enemy air traffic? I have asked this before and been told that it IS realistic as it is and that I should read my history. Really guys?! Over 25 air attacks between Tinian and Mindinao? Most of them by Zeros with the final one nearky destroying my sub at a depth 120 feet!?

With all due respect - I don't think so.

I AM using evasion methods, air radar, ect which is why I was 'safely' submerged when I was hit.

Any help wpuld be appreciated.

I am not dissing the game - it's potentially great but as it is it resembles a backyard game of Marco Polo more then a sub sim.

sharkbit · 06-23-10, 07:47 AM

There's a mod out there by Webster(IIRC) that reduces air patrols, especially the zeroes.

Try searching the mods forum.

tomoose · 06-23-10, 09:20 AM

I use TMO and haven't seen that many but you didn't say the timeframe. Is that 25 in one day? That would definitely be weird. Are you sure your mods aren't screwing something up regarding the aircraft quantity? Just a suggestion.

Munchausen · 06-23-10, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by UdiHrant

... I was 'safely' submerged when I was hit.

Define "safely."

UdiHrant · 06-23-10, 02:17 PM

if anyone has the link for the Webster mod I would appreciate it - thanks

BillBam · 06-23-10, 02:21 PM

Here it is...just remember per Ducimus using this mod overwrites all his air craft upgrades.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=139472

JoeCorrado · 06-23-10, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillBam

Here it is...just remember per Ducimus using this mod overwrites all his air craft upgrades.

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=139472

Evil, evil, evil upgrades.

I'm goin' down · 06-23-10, 10:52 PM

The problem of too many airplanes, as was pointed out in a very recent mods thread on the subject, is that in some corridors heavy air traffic, coupled with a high rate of time compression, makes planes appear every 10-20 seconds. TMO and RSRDC are attempts at realism. Webster's Better Air Mods overrides those mods realism effects. The answer lies in slowing Time Compression (TC) way down when in the corridors where there is a lot of plane traffic. This enables you to conserve the realism aspect. (At night you can increase Time Compression because planes are grounded usually.)

Here is the link to the mods forum thread. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=171180 . Note, tomoose's post near the end of the thread hits the nail on the head with his two references to TC (Time Compression), although they are not emphasized. Also, lurker posts are very instructive re realism and RSRDC.

I thought the issue was whether RSRDC caused excessive air patrols. I think I was wrong. I removed the mod, and found there was still a great deal of aircraft traffic in TMO2.0 standing alone.

Bottom line: In areas of heavy aircraft traffic reduce TC. Alternative, forget the realism component and use Webster's Air Patrols.

Ducimus · 06-23-10, 11:06 PM

Every time you are spotted or contact the enemy, there is a very good chance they will report your position. The more of you the enemy see's, the more likely more planes will be airborne.

I'm goin' down · 06-29-10, 03:06 AM

TMO2.0 plus RSRDC--still too many aircraft. I spend all day bobbing up and down avoiding them. I hit the C and P key. Then I have to change speed from flank to regular speed so I don't wear out the battery. It is exhausting. I have not been sunk yet, but I did run out of fuel, as I left the engine on flank by mistake and used too much fuel. How can I reduce the number of aircraft by 30 - 40 percent?

JoeCorrado · 06-29-10, 12:49 PM

modify the Airstrike.cfg file - self explanatory for the most part.

You can change the "probability" of air strikes- just what you are looking for I think.

06-22-10, 08:31 PM	#1
UdiHrant Seaman Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 33 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	reducing air traffic in sh4/tmo Does anyone know of a way of tweeking the game to reduce enemy air traffic? I have asked this before and been told that it IS realistic as it is and that I should read my history. Really guys?! Over 25 air attacks between Tinian and Mindinao? Most of them by Zeros with the final one nearky destroying my sub at a depth 120 feet!? With all due respect - I don't think so. I AM using evasion methods, air radar, ect which is why I was 'safely' submerged when I was hit. Any help wpuld be appreciated. I am not dissing the game - it's potentially great but as it is it resembles a backyard game of Marco Polo more then a sub sim.

06-23-10, 07:47 AM	#2
sharkbit The Old Man Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 1,529 Downloads: 334 Uploads: 0	There's a mod out there by Webster(IIRC) that reduces air patrols, especially the zeroes. Try searching the mods forum. __________________ “Prejudice is blind. There will always be someone who says you aren’t welcome at the table. Stop apologizing for who you are and using all your energy trying to change their minds. Yes, you will lose friends, maybe even family. But you will gain your self-respect. You will know your worth. Once you have that, nothing can stop you.”

06-23-10, 09:20 AM	#3
tomoose Grey Wolf Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 930 Downloads: 23 Uploads: 0	25? I use TMO and haven't seen that many but you didn't say the timeframe. Is that 25 in one day? That would definitely be weird. Are you sure your mods aren't screwing something up regarding the aircraft quantity? Just a suggestion.

06-23-10, 02:17 PM	#5
UdiHrant Seaman Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 33 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	is 120 feet down not deep enough? if anyone has the link for the Webster mod I would appreciate it - thanks

06-23-10, 02:21 PM	#6
BillBam Watch Officer Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Yuba/Sutter, CA Posts: 347 Downloads: 171 Uploads: 0	Here it is...just remember per Ducimus using this mod overwrites all his air craft upgrades. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=139472 __________________

06-23-10, 10:52 PM	#8
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	I have had this battle The problem of too many airplanes, as was pointed out in a very recent mods thread on the subject, is that in some corridors heavy air traffic, coupled with a high rate of time compression, makes planes appear every 10-20 seconds. TMO and RSRDC are attempts at realism. Webster's Better Air Mods overrides those mods realism effects. The answer lies in slowing Time Compression (TC) way down when in the corridors where there is a lot of plane traffic. This enables you to conserve the realism aspect. (At night you can increase Time Compression because planes are grounded usually.) Here is the link to the mods forum thread. http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=171180 . Note, tomoose's post near the end of the thread hits the nail on the head with his two references to TC (Time Compression), although they are not emphasized. Also, lurker posts are very instructive re realism and RSRDC. I thought the issue was whether RSRDC caused excessive air patrols. I think I was wrong. I removed the mod, and found there was still a great deal of aircraft traffic in TMO2.0 standing alone. Bottom line: In areas of heavy aircraft traffic reduce TC. Alternative, forget the realism component and use Webster's Air Patrols. Last edited by I'm goin' down; 06-23-10 at 11:14 PM.

06-23-10, 11:06 PM	#9
Ducimus Rear Admiral Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 12,987 Downloads: 67 Uploads: 2	Every time you are spotted or contact the enemy, there is a very good chance they will report your position. The more of you the enemy see's, the more likely more planes will be airborne.

06-29-10, 03:06 AM	#10
I'm goin' down Ocean Warrior Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Notify command we have entered the Grass Sea Posts: 2,822 Downloads: 813 Uploads: 0	ducimus TMO2.0 plus RSRDC--still too many aircraft. I spend all day bobbing up and down avoiding them. I hit the C and P key. Then I have to change speed from flank to regular speed so I don't wear out the battery. It is exhausting. I have not been sunk yet, but I did run out of fuel, as I left the engine on flank by mistake and used too much fuel. How can I reduce the number of aircraft by 30 - 40 percent?

06-29-10, 12:49 PM	#11
JoeCorrado Weps Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Illinois Posts: 366 Downloads: 176 Uploads: 5	modify the Airstrike.cfg file - self explanatory for the most part. You can change the "probability" of air strikes- just what you are looking for I think. __________________ ============= My Game starts with GFO - Keepin' it real as it needs to be!