How to find enemy subs

iowa101 · 05-09-10, 02:47 PM

im just wondering if it is possible to find and engage enemy subs, i would love to opertunity to pit my skills against one, but for some reason subs do not seem to want to play with me.

also a slight enquiery, and problem.

when i brought my game i got it from ebay. to my misfortune it came without the cd key. not sure why, but i was able to ask why, and apparently the guy lost everything but the game and caseing.

peabody · 05-09-10, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by iowa101

im just wondering if it is possible to find and engage enemy subs, i would love to opertunity to pit my skills against one, but for some reason subs do not seem to want to play with me.

also a slight enquiery, and problem.

when i brought my game i got it from ebay. to my misfortune it came without the cd key. not sure why, but i was able to ask why, and apparently the guy lost everything but the game and caseing.

if possible would someone who doesn't use online beable to send me in a private message a cd key for me to use.

How did you install the game without a CD key?

iowa101 · 05-09-10, 02:58 PM

i had to get a crack, i know...i know pirating but it was the only way, i have a new game on the way but it's going to take a few weeks, and i really want to try online multiplayer

iowa101 · 05-09-10, 03:00 PM

and i dont remember it asking for a cd key, when i installed it 2 days ago i assumed nothing was wrong, so i didnt think to much about it.

peabody · 05-09-10, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by iowa101

and i dont remember it asking for a cd key, when i installed it 2 days ago i assumed nothing was wrong, so i didnt think to much about it.

You might want to read the forum rules about pirating.

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Support computer game programmers buy legally purchasing their work. They have to eat too, you know.

You may get yourself banned, that's not up to me.

But if it was me, AND you indeed did get a pirated version form ebay, I would report them to ebay and get my money back and get them banned. If in fact what you say it the truth. But it doesn't make sense to me that you would buy one from ebay if you had one "on the way". It takes longer to get one from ebay then from a reputable dealer.

Peabody

iowa101 · 05-09-10, 04:08 PM

i have only recently ordered it, like a few hours because i wanted try online but without the cd key i cant so a freind said to order one. the game disc it self looks authentic as you would say as does the case, and so i had no reason to suspect anything it is my first time buying on ebay and so i wasnt sure what to look for.

my friend who is a wiz with computer just popped round and is currently checking it over, he knows alot about pirated and unpirated cd's so i'll give you an update.

iowa101 · 05-09-10, 04:30 PM

alright, my mate says i did the right thing ordering a new game, he say the disc it's self was original and has since been changed so that the game will install, but would need a crack.

as i old you below so im not hiding anything there, he says that the person must have copied and changed a torrent based version and replaced the disc files with the torrent ones. so that the game no longer asked for a cd- key.

i have sent a email to ebay and have yet to get a reply, i hope that i dont get banned as i was just an unlucky choice off ebay. im currently un-installing my game and have gotten my friend to lend me his one until mine arrives.

im sorry if i have been stupid in asking for a cd-key to have.

Krauter · 05-09-10, 07:38 PM

I would be careful about treading these waters. Over in the SHV Forum we had a very heated debate (spanning 3 or so threads) in regards to a cracked game, why thread discussing crack was closed and so on.

Like it or not this Forum blanches at the mention of a pirated game or cracked game. So if you have any troubles with this I'd PM a Moderator or something instead of proclaiming to the world about this.

Just be careful

Wouldn't want you to get Brig Time for an innocent mistake

iowa101 · 05-09-10, 08:40 PM

ty, im sorry for the fuss.

forgettin all that about hunting subs lol, i have yet to find any in game

SH4 fan · 05-09-10, 10:25 PM

I don't see this issue, provided the purchase was made unknowingly AND the software is not used. I wouldn't destroy the disc because it is evidence of piracy.

If you purchase a cd under the assumption of validity, then ask others the problem and learn it is pirated does not mean you are guilty of blatant and intentional piracy. It does mean you are out a few bucks with a junk cd. Sorry mate.

What is peaking my curiosity is the issue of the authentic cd. It is not possible to change files on a CD-R or DVD-R. So how did the seller change files on a frozen media, unless he printed off an actual SH4 cd.

that is my 0.02

iowa101 · 05-09-10, 10:47 PM

thats what my mate thinks too, because when you luck at the dic it looks like a honest copy, and saying that so does the case.

thats why i didn't find it wierd to begin with.

but enough of that, i lost a few bob...what i need now beens my mate kindly lent me his game is how to find enemy subs, it seems everytime i get a contact its a ship. are there subs on this game or not!!

rein1705 · 05-09-10, 11:07 PM

So all that about pirate this and that ... whatever.... back to the question at hand here... where can you find and engage an enemy sub?

SH4 fan · 05-09-10, 11:11 PM

bump hulls is a good way!

I would think if they are surfaced either visual or sonar. Maybe radar too...

submerged only if they are cranking more than 100 rpm

Admiral8Q · 05-10-10, 01:59 AM

I suppose multiplayer would be the best way to go sub vs. sub.

Get a clean copy of SH4, it doesn't cost much.

fw66 · 05-10-10, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rein1705

So all that about pirate this and that ... whatever.... back to the question at hand here... where can you find and engage an enemy sub?

You could add some to the campaign using the SH4 mission editor. However, I've tried to make missions in the past involving enemy subs and they've not been very successful.

As far as I remember, the stock game doesn't really let you do any damage to subs, I recall firing at a sen toku sub and watching it just bounce around in the water, taking no damage. Similar experiences using a u-boat against fleet boats.

This was some time ago, so that may have changed, but I think that's the situation at least in stock.

I have seen a mod in the downloads section which makes the sen toku destroyable, but haven't yet been able to try it.

05-09-10, 02:47 PM	#1
iowa101 Commodore Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 615 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 0	How to find enemy subs im just wondering if it is possible to find and engage enemy subs, i would love to opertunity to pit my skills against one, but for some reason subs do not seem to want to play with me. also a slight enquiery, and problem. when i brought my game i got it from ebay. to my misfortune it came without the cd key. not sure why, but i was able to ask why, and apparently the guy lost everything but the game and caseing. Last edited by iowa101; 05-09-10 at 04:21 PM.

05-09-10, 11:07 PM	#12
rein1705 Samurai Navy Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: somewhere in the Past. Posts: 582 Downloads: 541 Uploads: 0	back to the point So all that about pirate this and that ... whatever.... back to the question at hand here... where can you find and engage an enemy sub? __________________ "Diesel Pig" Not so long ago...

05-10-10, 01:59 AM	#14
Admiral8Q Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Prince Edward Island, Canada Posts: 1,077 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	I suppose multiplayer would be the best way to go sub vs. sub. Get a clean copy of SH4, it doesn't cost much. __________________

05-09-10, 02:58 PM	#3
iowa101 Commodore Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 615 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 0	i had to get a crack, i know...i know pirating but it was the only way, i have a new game on the way but it's going to take a few weeks, and i really want to try online multiplayer

05-09-10, 03:00 PM	#4
iowa101 Commodore Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 615 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 0	and i dont remember it asking for a cd key, when i installed it 2 days ago i assumed nothing was wrong, so i didnt think to much about it.

05-09-10, 04:08 PM	#6
iowa101 Commodore Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 615 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 0	i have only recently ordered it, like a few hours because i wanted try online but without the cd key i cant so a freind said to order one. the game disc it self looks authentic as you would say as does the case, and so i had no reason to suspect anything it is my first time buying on ebay and so i wasnt sure what to look for. my friend who is a wiz with computer just popped round and is currently checking it over, he knows alot about pirated and unpirated cd's so i'll give you an update.

05-09-10, 04:30 PM	#7
iowa101 Commodore Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 615 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 0	alright, my mate says i did the right thing ordering a new game, he say the disc it's self was original and has since been changed so that the game will install, but would need a crack. as i old you below so im not hiding anything there, he says that the person must have copied and changed a torrent based version and replaced the disc files with the torrent ones. so that the game no longer asked for a cd- key. i have sent a email to ebay and have yet to get a reply, i hope that i dont get banned as i was just an unlucky choice off ebay. im currently un-installing my game and have gotten my friend to lend me his one until mine arrives. im sorry if i have been stupid in asking for a cd-key to have.

05-09-10, 08:40 PM	#9
iowa101 Commodore Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 615 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 0	ty, im sorry for the fuss. forgettin all that about hunting subs lol, i have yet to find any in game

05-09-10, 10:25 PM	#10
SH4 fan Mate Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 51 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	I don't see this issue, provided the purchase was made unknowingly AND the software is not used. I wouldn't destroy the disc because it is evidence of piracy. If you purchase a cd under the assumption of validity, then ask others the problem and learn it is pirated does not mean you are guilty of blatant and intentional piracy. It does mean you are out a few bucks with a junk cd. Sorry mate. What is peaking my curiosity is the issue of the authentic cd. It is not possible to change files on a CD-R or DVD-R. So how did the seller change files on a frozen media, unless he printed off an actual SH4 cd. that is my 0.02

05-09-10, 10:47 PM	#11
iowa101 Commodore Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 615 Downloads: 199 Uploads: 0	thats what my mate thinks too, because when you luck at the dic it looks like a honest copy, and saying that so does the case. thats why i didn't find it wierd to begin with. but enough of that, i lost a few bob...what i need now beens my mate kindly lent me his game is how to find enemy subs, it seems everytime i get a contact its a ship. are there subs on this game or not!!

05-09-10, 11:11 PM	#13
SH4 fan Mate Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 51 Downloads: 65 Uploads: 0	bump hulls is a good way! I would think if they are surfaced either visual or sonar. Maybe radar too... submerged only if they are cranking more than 100 rpm