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Paukenschlag · 05-07-10, 04:08 AM

Hey man! I sank a British battleship on its way to Scapa. Four torpedoes hit her and she was disabled.

She had stopped and was leaning heavily to port so I decided to save the game and then start Fraps to get a good picture of her, but on reloading the game I see her up and running at speed (no list, no fire)

though with the bars at the top showing that it need only a quarter more to sink her, which I did.

Is this a problem that has been sorted out with the up and coming patch or do we have to make sure we sink the ship before saving the game?

Oh yes and when I return to the fatherland will I get the brass bands and all?

Ragtag · 05-07-10, 04:25 AM

It's a known bug unfortunatly. Never save around ships, especially dmg ones.

d@rk51d3 · 05-07-10, 04:44 AM

Did a raid on Scapa a while back, found a tasty BB. Had to go out, so I got into position and saved.

When I got home and reloaded, BB was gone.

Luckily there was a cruiser and carrier that had mysteriously appeared nearby.

Athlonic · 05-07-10, 05:50 AM

Remember that Silent Hunter 5 is a simulation and it is all about realism.

So you shouldn't save your game and reload it later ... never !
As in real life.

There is no savegame bug, it is a feature.

oscar19681 · 05-07-10, 05:55 AM

If thar bug is a feature. Then sh-5 is indeed very rich in "features"

Paukenschlag · 05-07-10, 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Athlonic

So you shouldn't save your game and reload it later ... never !
As in real life.

Well it was just to load Fraps to take a pic. I didn't think anyone would believe me if I said that I had beaten my way past that heavy destroyer screen.

IanC · 05-07-10, 06:07 AM

Obviously when you saved the game and went to bed, or watched TV, you gave the crew of the battleship enough time to repair the damage. I don't see the problem, all makes sense to me.

Athlonic · 05-07-10, 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IanC

Obviously when you saved the game and went to bed, or watched TV, you gave the crew of the battleship enough time to repair the damage. I don't see the problem, all makes sense to me.

Paukenschlag · 05-07-10, 06:28 AM

Ha Ha. Yeah, amazing what they could do: stationary, listing to port, water washing the deck, flames everywhere and then making 14 knots when I returned 10 minutes later.

Damage control was really top notch in the Royal Navy.

At any rate I still sank her (very quickly in the end), but that shot of leaning to port would have been pretty cool.

krashkart · 05-07-10, 09:28 AM

Haven't played SH5 yet, but in SH3 I've had good luck with blowing holes in the bottom of the hull. Sunk a Nelson very quickly with three right under the keel, but only needed two. Able to repeat the sequence on all manner of warships (DD and larger). If you have good weather try using magnetic pistols and set the run depth to 1-1.5 meters below keel depth and see how that works for you. Hopefully that will still work in SH5 and you won't have to use as many eels.

SabreHawk · 05-07-10, 10:32 AM

There are a lot of things that dont get saved in SH5 when saving. In fact I think the only things that do, are your total tonnage sunk, ships sunk, carreer status, position at sea and the course you have plotted.
All else seems to get erased each time you return to a save.

But I aslo think that this is being addressed in the upcoming patch, at least it had better be.

Takao · 05-07-10, 05:43 PM

Maybe, maybe not. This has been a problem with SH3 & 4. That's why one of the unwritten rules was not to save when anything else is around. Strange things could occur if a game was saved with ships nearby.

gimpy117 · 05-08-10, 12:11 AM

I did the old save and reload and ran into a group of 10 destroyers under 1000M away!

Thank heavens I hadn't installed an A.I mod yet

Diopos · 05-08-10, 03:51 AM

In the simpler and much older days (DOS era, Command: Aces of the Deep) you'd get a "prompt" stating: You can not save now, you are in the middle of a battle - or something similar. So you knew it was a "feature" from the beginning. Of course it was an era were most manuals were read by the players to learn about the game beside their PC and not in the toilet prior to be discarded with the rest of the ... uhmmm solid waste?

comment on game manuals not SH5 specific ... only.

Paukenschlag · 05-08-10, 05:00 AM

I notice that auto saves happen during a battle.

05-07-10, 04:08 AM	#1
Paukenschlag Sailor man Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 44 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Disabled yet up and running! Hey man! I sank a British battleship on its way to Scapa. Four torpedoes hit her and she was disabled. She had stopped and was leaning heavily to port so I decided to save the game and then start Fraps to get a good picture of her, but on reloading the game I see her up and running at speed (no list, no fire) though with the bars at the top showing that it need only a quarter more to sink her, which I did. Is this a problem that has been sorted out with the up and coming patch or do we have to make sure we sink the ship before saving the game? Oh yes and when I return to the fatherland will I get the brass bands and all? __________________ Paukenschlag

05-07-10, 04:25 AM	#2
Ragtag Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 654 Downloads: 163 Uploads: 0	It's a known bug unfortunatly. Never save around ships, especially dmg ones. __________________ Intel I7-7800x CPU. 16Gb G.skill DDR4 3600MHz. Asrock Taichi X299 mb Palit RTX 2080Ti. Fortron 1000W PSU. BenQ XR3501R LCD.

05-07-10, 05:50 AM	#4
Athlonic Chief Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: France Posts: 311 Downloads: 51 Uploads: 2	Remember that Silent Hunter 5 is a simulation and it is all about realism. So you shouldn't save your game and reload it later ... never ! As in real life. There is no savegame bug, it is a feature. __________________ ________________________ Gimme tons of patches ! Athlonic's MCCD "More Crew Commands by Dialog" MOD for Silent Hunter 5 Version 1.04 SH5 1.2.0 Ready Athlonic's TSAF Mod : Torpedo_Speed_Abilitie_Fix_for_TDC

05-07-10, 05:55 AM	#5
oscar19681 Admiral Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: netherlands Posts: 2,020 Downloads: 119 Uploads: 0	If thar bug is a feature. Then sh-5 is indeed very rich in "features" __________________ we live we die but death does not ends it. Jim Morrison 1943-1971

05-07-10, 06:28 AM	#9
Paukenschlag Sailor man Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 44 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Ha Ha. Yeah, amazing what they could do: stationary, listing to port, water washing the deck, flames everywhere and then making 14 knots when I returned 10 minutes later. Damage control was really top notch in the Royal Navy. At any rate I still sank her (very quickly in the end), but that shot of leaning to port would have been pretty cool. __________________ Paukenschlag

05-07-10, 04:44 AM	#3
d@rk51d3 Sea Lord Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Adelaide, South Australia Posts: 1,952 Downloads: 207 Uploads: 0	Did a raid on Scapa a while back, found a tasty BB. Had to go out, so I got into position and saved. When I got home and reloaded, BB was gone. Luckily there was a cruiser and carrier that had mysteriously appeared nearby.

05-07-10, 06:07 AM	#7
IanC Grey Wolf Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Running silent and deep Posts: 902 Downloads: 3 Uploads: 0	Obviously when you saved the game and went to bed, or watched TV, you gave the crew of the battleship enough time to repair the damage. I don't see the problem, all makes sense to me.

05-07-10, 09:28 AM	#10
krashkart Navy Seal Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 5,292 Downloads: 100 Uploads: 0	Haven't played SH5 yet, but in SH3 I've had good luck with blowing holes in the bottom of the hull. Sunk a Nelson very quickly with three right under the keel, but only needed two. Able to repeat the sequence on all manner of warships (DD and larger). If you have good weather try using magnetic pistols and set the run depth to 1-1.5 meters below keel depth and see how that works for you. Hopefully that will still work in SH5 and you won't have to use as many eels. __________________ sent from my fingertips using a cheap keyboard

05-07-10, 10:32 AM	#11
SabreHawk Captain Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Seattle, Wa. USA Posts: 530 Downloads: 8 Uploads: 0	There are a lot of things that dont get saved in SH5 when saving. In fact I think the only things that do, are your total tonnage sunk, ships sunk, carreer status, position at sea and the course you have plotted. All else seems to get erased each time you return to a save. But I aslo think that this is being addressed in the upcoming patch, at least it had better be. __________________ "Chance favors the prepared mind"

05-07-10, 05:43 PM	#12
Takao Officer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Reading, PA Posts: 244 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	Maybe, maybe not. This has been a problem with SH3 & 4. That's why one of the unwritten rules was not to save when anything else is around. Strange things could occur if a game was saved with ships nearby.

05-08-10, 12:11 AM	#13
gimpy117 Ocean Warrior Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 3,243 Downloads: 108 Uploads: 0	I did the old save and reload and ran into a group of 10 destroyers under 1000M away! Thank heavens I hadn't installed an A.I mod yet __________________ Member of the Subsim Zombie Army

05-08-10, 03:51 AM	#14
Diopos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, the original one. Posts: 1,226 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	In the simpler and much older days (DOS era, Command: Aces of the Deep) you'd get a "prompt" stating: You can not save now, you are in the middle of a battle - or something similar. So you knew it was a "feature" from the beginning. Of course it was an era were most manuals were read by the players to learn about the game beside their PC and not in the toilet prior to be discarded with the rest of the ... uhmmm solid waste? comment on game manuals not SH5 specific ... only. __________________ - Oh God! They're all over the place! CRASH DIVE!!! - Ehm... we can't honey. We're in the car right now. - What?... er right... Doesn't matter! We'll give it a try anyway!

05-08-10, 05:00 AM	#15
Paukenschlag Sailor man Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 44 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	I notice that auto saves happen during a battle. __________________ Paukenschlag