How's the hold out crowd holding up? - Page 6

Nafod81 · 03-19-10, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by drtechno

There is NO reason to buy the title in its current status. First is the whole DRM issue, and not being able to play when YOU have free time, rather when UBI's servers have freetime. Then there's all the bugs (use search function) that essentially make the game unplayable. Finally, there's the jackass UI and the need for us to walk around our boat giving pep talks to our boys to boost morale. Interesting the first 5 times, infuriating waste of time the other 95 times.. here we go, I need to ask him about the Bismark AGAIN

BTW- has there been ONE good review of this game?

This is exactly what I'm complaining about.

If you wanted to say:

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Originally Posted by drtechno

There is NO reason to buy the title in its current status. First is the whole DRM issue, and not being able to play when YOU have free time, rather when UBI's servers have freetime.

Then it's fair. But the rest of what you said was pretty much useless drivel. As the bugs you speak of exist, but alas the game is playable, and maybe hell is freezing over but --GASP-- Enjoyable. At least to me.

Now if you wish to not buy the game due to DRM kudos to you.

If you wish to not buy the game due to DRM and interpret/speculate the impact of every negative/"I've found a bug post" about the game to strengthen your view. I don't see why anyone would lend any credence to what you say beyond:

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Originally Posted by drtechno

There is NO reason to buy the title in its current status. First is the whole DRM issue, and not being able to play when YOU have free time, rather when UBI's servers have freetime.

Diopos · 03-19-10, 06:49 PM

Isn't this thread reminding you an AA meeting or something?

"Hi. I'm John. Haven't had a drop of SH5 the last 14 days and I feel allright..."

BTW I'm still "shadowing" SH5......

V.C. Sniper · 03-19-10, 06:56 PM

i didn't realize that i needed to spend effort to "hold out"

Noren · 03-19-10, 06:56 PM

Im holding up alright actually!

Kinda feel like a have been through a lot in SH5, only by visiting this forum in a daily manner. But I wont support DRM or a company who sells half-finished products, those days are over.

navyvet · 03-19-10, 07:02 PM

Haven't bought yet. Planning as soon as Al Gore announces global warming has reached Hell.

frau kaleun · 03-19-10, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jdkbph

So I hit F2 to look around outside and there they are on the bridge, just as expected, with the water swirling around their waists as the sub goes under.

To be fair to Ubi, most people did seem to want more immersion...

OakGroove · 03-19-10, 07:26 PM

What started as a objection against an atrocious form of DRM, has turned into objection of the product itself -the state it is in, the concept behind it. As someone said, they tried to cater all, and came with some malformity that i find hard to classify. To me it looks like a persiflage on SH3, stripped of the more complete and useful stuff, but retrofitted with different graphics and abstract "features", which mostly seem to be coming from a land that reality forgot. Same bugs, disfunct routines and shortcomings as it predecessors. Deja-Vu. 5 years in a row, and each release seems to be in worse shape than the previous. Long story short, still voting with my wallet, not only against this form of DRM, but also uninspired low quality products.

UnSalted · 03-19-10, 07:39 PM

Well it could be worse. With most games these days it seems the "casual" gamers want a romance option, same sex included.

Just be glad that all you have to do is talk to the crew.

Nafod81 · 03-19-10, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by OakGroove

What started as a objection against an atrocious form of DRM, has turned into objection of the product itself -the state it is in, the concept behind it. As someone said, they tried to cater all, and came with some malformity that i find hard to classify. To me it looks like a persiflage on SH3, stripped of the more complete and useful stuff, but retrofitted with different graphics and abstract "features", which mostly seem to be coming from a land that reality forgot. Same bugs, disfunct routines and shortcomings as it predecessors. Deja-Vu. 5 years in a row, and each release seems to be in worse shape than the previous. Long story short, still voting with my wallet, not only against this form of DRM, but also uninspired low quality products.

So how much of this statement can one presume comes from your own experience?

To be against DRM is one thing. To be against the game as a whole requires well....oh I don't know....just playing it maybe.

hocking · 03-19-10, 08:05 PM

I truly believe that UBI has done incredible damage to this series, and I think they are doing incredible damage to PC gaming as a whole. Making something harder and harder to use simply makes people not want to use it.

With that said, I think UBI has created a huge opportunity for another developer, or group of developers, to create a competitive new authentic UBoat simulator. With all the mods that came out for SH3, there is incredible talent out there. Has there been any talk about a serious competitor to the SH series?

OakGroove · 03-19-10, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nafod81

So how much of this statement can one presume comes from your own experience?

Let's just say i´ve playtested the offline "Demo". Before jumping to conclusions, no, personally i didn't acquire the game in any shape or form.

Phoenix3000 · 03-19-10, 08:23 PM

Hi guys,

Well, I own SH5 - Collector's Edition, and yesterday I uninstalled it. I was just fed up with the bugs and gaming 'issues'!

I'm now planning on reinstalling SH3 with either GWX or LSH with some additional mods.

Graphically SH5 is better, but for gameplay a modded SH3 wins hands down.

Like many of you I will keep checking the SH5 forums for future updates, but for now SH3 is the game for me.

Just my 2p-worth...

Px3000

frau kaleun · 03-19-10, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Brag

Frau K, priceless!

Really, though, all they need to do is capture a Royal Navy vessel and get themselves some of those magic Jesus shoes.

Nafod81 · 03-19-10, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OakGroove

Let's just say i´ve playtested the offline "Demo". Before jumping to conclusions, no, personally i didn't acquire the game in any shape or form.

I really don't know what to say to that. Some might think what you said is clever but it remains pretty clear what you did.

SKurj · 03-19-10, 08:34 PM

holdin out

But thats been easy as I have been on the road alot recently and will continue to be on the road for a few weeks yet. By then the bike will be out of storage and I won't be spending much time gaming anyways..

03-19-10, 06:49 PM	#77
Diopos Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Athens, the original one. Posts: 1,226 Downloads: 9 Uploads: 0	Isn't this thread reminding you an AA meeting or something? "Hi. I'm John. Haven't had a drop of SH5 the last 14 days and I feel allright..." BTW I'm still "shadowing" SH5...... __________________ - Oh God! They're all over the place! CRASH DIVE!!! - Ehm... we can't honey. We're in the car right now. - What?... er right... Doesn't matter! We'll give it a try anyway!

03-19-10, 06:56 PM	#78
V.C. Sniper Watch Officer Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 339 Downloads: 1 Uploads: 0	i didn't realize that i needed to spend effort to "hold out" __________________ I only need one torpedo.

03-19-10, 07:26 PM	#82
OakGroove 中国水兵 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Germany Posts: 275 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	What started as a objection against an atrocious form of DRM, has turned into objection of the product itself -the state it is in, the concept behind it. As someone said, they tried to cater all, and came with some malformity that i find hard to classify. To me it looks like a persiflage on SH3, stripped of the more complete and useful stuff, but retrofitted with different graphics and abstract "features", which mostly seem to be coming from a land that reality forgot. Same bugs, disfunct routines and shortcomings as it predecessors. Deja-Vu. 5 years in a row, and each release seems to be in worse shape than the previous. Long story short, still voting with my wallet, not only against this form of DRM, but also uninspired low quality products. __________________ The idea that a company with more negotiating power over its customers will cut them a better deal is just bizarre. Mad Science spawns Evil Fiend: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkTZTzsYoZs

03-19-10, 08:23 PM	#87
Phoenix3000 Weps Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: London, England (Usually in a pub...) Posts: 358 Downloads: 49 Uploads: 0	Hi guys, Well, I own SH5 - Collector's Edition, and yesterday I uninstalled it. I was just fed up with the bugs and gaming 'issues'! I'm now planning on reinstalling SH3 with either GWX or LSH with some additional mods. Graphically SH5 is better, but for gameplay a modded SH3 wins hands down. Like many of you I will keep checking the SH5 forums for future updates, but for now SH3 is the game for me. Just my 2p-worth... Px3000 __________________ Can you help? : http://www.WSPA.org.uk

03-19-10, 06:56 PM	#79
Noren 中国水兵 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 284 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Im holding up alright actually! Kinda feel like a have been through a lot in SH5, only by visiting this forum in a daily manner. But I wont support DRM or a company who sells half-finished products, those days are over.

03-19-10, 07:02 PM	#80
navyvet Navyvet Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mechanicsville, Virginia Posts: 23 Downloads: 96 Uploads: 0	Haven't bought yet. Planning as soon as Al Gore announces global warming has reached Hell.

03-19-10, 07:39 PM	#83
UnSalted Machinist's Mate Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 130 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Well it could be worse. With most games these days it seems the "casual" gamers want a romance option, same sex included. Just be glad that all you have to do is talk to the crew.

03-19-10, 08:05 PM	#85
hocking Sparky Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 154 Downloads: 156 Uploads: 0	I truly believe that UBI has done incredible damage to this series, and I think they are doing incredible damage to PC gaming as a whole. Making something harder and harder to use simply makes people not want to use it. With that said, I think UBI has created a huge opportunity for another developer, or group of developers, to create a competitive new authentic UBoat simulator. With all the mods that came out for SH3, there is incredible talent out there. Has there been any talk about a serious competitor to the SH series?

03-19-10, 08:34 PM	#90
SKurj Mate Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 57 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	holdin out But thats been easy as I have been on the road alot recently and will continue to be on the road for a few weeks yet. By then the bike will be out of storage and I won't be spending much time gaming anyways..