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Old 03-08-10, 05:11 PM   #196
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I'm not trying to stir controversy or incite a riot here, but I have noticed a swarm of new members here joining in March with only a post or two complaining about every aspect of Ubisofts policy, the DRM, and proclaiming how the game is hacked, along with a multitude of related complaints.

I may be wrong, but I get the impression that Subsim has been raided by the hackers seeking the mods and whatever else they can siphon in an effort to make a pirated game function better.

It just appears to me that the most chaos is coming from members mentioned above.

Devil's advocate says:

- You would expect a large number of new members on any game-related forum shortly after release of a new game.

- That goes double when the game does not function

- I would imagine that if Ubi is under attack from hackers (which I doubt), they're probably much more concerned with the DRM on Assassins's Creed 2, which was also just released and is orders of magnitude more popular than SHV. I really doubt our little submarine game is driving the rage, if the rage actually does exist.
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Old 03-08-10, 05:16 PM   #197
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AC2 is suffering thru the same problems with the servers/DRM and the response from Ubisoft is the same...the hackers did it.
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Old 03-08-10, 05:25 PM   #198
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please I need help:

I'm from spain I not speak english well.

I pay 50 € for SH5. I think my credit is over, I play for three days and now I think I have run credit . ¿Can you tell me the bank account of UBI to expand my credit whit other 50 €.

Thanks

Could this be the problem???

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Old 03-08-10, 05:26 PM   #199
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I bought SH5, gorgeous graphics, so many promises, a good franchise, a common recently released game with some bugs and UI problems.
I'm waiting for fixes, it's a good game.
I'm a new Subsim gamer, addicted to SH5, please, fix this UBI.

Sorry my english.
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Old 03-08-10, 05:28 PM   #200
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John is right.
...<<etc>>...
So think about who to blame, a legitimate business trying to provide you the service you paid for or the criminals who are preventing it and getting rich in the process...
Well, legally it is simple. The company not providing the support paid for by the customers. German law is fortunately pretty simple and protects customers as much as companies. The reasons why services are not provided are secondary in nature, and not within the scope of responsibility of the customer since he basically only has to provide a functioning PC, and a working internet connection. Point.

BTW, the car example is quite different from the situation here. But John might of course detail his thoughts behind the analogy. Clearly his car dealer is not in the same situation as Ubisoft. Though if his provided alarm system was malfunctioning or inadequate, then his situation could look similar.

All this, however, does not mean that I do not condone this alleged act of piracy (is there any independent confirmation now or not? Why is everybody here seemingly always so uncritical towards sources and references?). Sure it is bad and total nonsense if it is true.
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Old 03-08-10, 05:28 PM   #201
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Ubi is a chorizo man. No digo mas
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Old 03-08-10, 05:31 PM   #202
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AC2 is suffering thru the same problems with the servers/DRM and the response from Ubisoft is the same...the hackers did it.
Ubi did it. Blaming hacking is like blaming the ocean for drowning in it. Yes, attacks are wrong, but they are an unstoppable reality.

They could spend the gajillion euros needed to make a fairly bulletproof server farm, or they could go cheap and screw their customers. Guess which they chose?
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Old 03-08-10, 05:32 PM   #203
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And now... the ubiquitous car analogy.

I buy a car from the dealership, complete with anti-theft devices.

Someone smashes the window and defeats the anti-theft device and steals my car.

Do I call the cops and have the dealership arrested?

JCC
No, but if the anti-theft device simply didn't function when the thief smashed your window in, you sue its manufacturer...and win, I might add.
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Old 03-08-10, 05:56 PM   #204
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No, but if the anti-theft device simply didn't function when the thief smashed your window in, you sue its manufacturer...and win, I might add.
Nah, you've got your retort wrong.

If you go to get into your car one morning and the anti-theft device says "WARNING, SOMEONE HAS TAMPERED WITH THIS CAR" and then doesn't let you drive it, then you sue.
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Old 03-08-10, 06:09 PM   #205
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Thank God that all the buyers have a good and reliable Internet-Connection so the DRM will be no problem for them....
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Old 03-08-10, 06:11 PM   #206
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Thank God that all the buyers have a good and reliable Internet-Connection so the DRM will be no problem for them....
Heh, well, that oft repeated line has now been well and truly sunk, as many of us knew it would.
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Old 03-08-10, 06:12 PM   #207
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I just wanted to post that I am unable to log in and play. I do not know if it is a massed DOS attack, Ubi doesn't have enough servers, or if some European logging truck crashed into the substation.

I know that makes some of you very happy but I ain't afraid to say it.
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Old 03-08-10, 06:15 PM   #208
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No, unhappy it makes me. I am waiting for your review...
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Old 03-08-10, 06:15 PM   #209
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I just wanted to post that I am unable to log in and play. I do not know if it is a massed DOS attack, Ubi doesn't have enough servers, or if some European logging truck crashed into the substation.

I know that makes some of you very happy but I ain't afraid to say it.
Probabally the logging truck as the French aren't competent drivers.
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Old 03-08-10, 06:18 PM   #210
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Probabally the logging truck as the French aren't competent drivers.
With six reverse gears, and only one forward in case of attack from the rear, are you surprised?
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