I'm not playing this game.

Gabucino · 03-04-10, 01:24 PM

I know how to recognize a great and immersive game at first sight. Examples: Thief, Fallout 3, Mass Effect.

Silent Hunter 5 is not a great game. It's a very bad one. I've just finished the training mission, and I'm not continuing.

Speed: I can play Crysis and Fallout 3 on maximum detail with a very decent framerate. These games operate with a very large world. You'd think I would cope with a barren submarine interior. NO. Silent Hunter 5 stutters inexplicably.

Movement: Jerky beyond all expectations. Actual movement is delayed to the mouse movement by a significant amount.

GUI: OH MY GOD. What the fsck is this?!

Hotkeys: there are none that I'd need, but there are keys for "1 degree left/right". What the hell?! Some function keys call men to their stations: they just teleport there! This is 2010, how about modeling some ladder climbing movement?!

Patch 1.1: it doesn't find the installed SH5, probably because I've installed into my user directory (where it actually has to be, not in the root directory...).

Despite seeing the possibilities of the game, I'm totally unimmersed.

Until there is an SH3 GUI+hotkey mod, I can't play with this... whatever this is.

UPDATE: now that there's a 3 dials mod and adding SH3 hotkeys turned out to be relatively easy, SH5 becomes almost playable. AI and damage models are still nasty.

SteamWake · 03-04-10, 01:26 PM

Hotkey mod is already out although it has some minor issues.

wetwarev7 · 03-04-10, 01:28 PM

Not a very informative review. I can tell you don't like it, but why? Please explain things like what's wrong with the GUI, please.

SteamWake · 03-04-10, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wetwarev7

Not a very informative review. I can tell you don't like it, but why? Please explain things like what's wrong with the GUI, please.

Have you played the game ?

Lots of little issues like cant change speed setting with the map open, no compass, etc etc

Gabucino · 03-04-10, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wetwarev7

Not a very informative review. I can tell you don't like it, but why? Please explain things like what's wrong with the GUI, please.

I'm sorry, my bad for not saying: this is not a review. This is a "first impressions post". And a quick expression of how bad SH5 is

I can't really elaborate on the GUI, because it's hardly a GUI at all, just a stack of iPhone icons thrown at the screen. Nothing WW2-like.

Sailor Steve · 03-04-10, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gabucino

I can't really elaborate on the GUI, because it's hardly a GUI at all, just a stack of iPhone icons thrown at the screen. Nothing WW2-like.

At first reading that sounds like whining, but I reread it and read it a third time, and it's starting to make more and more sense. Bottom line: The interface should automatically put you in mind of what you're supposed to be playing. Microsoft's flight sim as an option of bringing up a modern interface for any aircraft to help you understand what you're doing in today's terms. The problem is it just never quite feels right.

In their case it's an option. In this case I hope it's easily modable.

Gabucino · 03-04-10, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailor Steve

At first reading that sounds like whining, but I reread it and read it a third time, and it's starting to make more and more sense.

Actually I think I was whining

I'm too demoralized to write a proper review, but I'll probably do tomorrow.

Sailor Steve · 03-04-10, 01:50 PM

But I still agree with your last line. The first thing the interface of a WW2 sim should do is put us in mind of the period.

wetgoat · 03-04-10, 02:29 PM

Been playing the SH series ever since SH1. Have to say, when I first saw the interface, I had no clue what I was looking at. ( Fast foward 3 or 4 hours,) I'm more confused now than I was to start with, and that should be impossible! On a brighter note, my wife says my profanity laced ravings have slowed down. That's because I wore myself out and am now reduced to talking to myself, instead of screaming at the monitor.

Undefined · 03-04-10, 02:31 PM

I knew this game would suck day 1

Decoman · 03-04-10, 02:51 PM

@Gabucino
Mass effect a great game? I would argue that it is the Fisher Price variant of RPGs

I thought F.E.A.R 2 was great!

AVGWarhawk · 03-04-10, 02:55 PM

Can I have your copy then?

I will mail it off to Sailor Steve.

Gabucino · 03-04-10, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Decoman

I thought F.E.A.R 2 was great!

F.E.A.R. 2 was also very immersive indeed (frighteningly so)!

Iron Budokan · 03-04-10, 03:26 PM

"I'm not playing this game."

Trust me, you're not alone.

03-04-10, 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iron Budokan

"I'm not playing this game."

Trust me, you're not alone.

I can't play this game as well, I really want, but it gives me no feeling doing that. I've finished the first mission (training one) and that was enough.

03-04-10, 01:24 PM	#1
Gabucino Gunner Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 99 Downloads: 50 Uploads: 0	I'm not playing this game. I know how to recognize a great and immersive game at first sight. Examples: Thief, Fallout 3, Mass Effect. Silent Hunter 5 is not a great game. It's a very bad one. I've just finished the training mission, and I'm not continuing. Speed: I can play Crysis and Fallout 3 on maximum detail with a very decent framerate. These games operate with a very large world. You'd think I would cope with a barren submarine interior. NO. Silent Hunter 5 stutters inexplicably. Movement: Jerky beyond all expectations. Actual movement is delayed to the mouse movement by a significant amount. GUI: OH MY GOD. What the fsck is this?! Hotkeys: there are none that I'd need, but there are keys for "1 degree left/right". What the hell?! Some function keys call men to their stations: they just teleport there! This is 2010, how about modeling some ladder climbing movement?! Patch 1.1: it doesn't find the installed SH5, probably because I've installed into my user directory (where it actually has to be, not in the root directory...). Despite seeing the possibilities of the game, I'm totally unimmersed. Until there is an SH3 GUI+hotkey mod, I can't play with this... whatever this is. UPDATE: now that there's a 3 dials mod and adding SH3 hotkeys turned out to be relatively easy, SH5 becomes almost playable. AI and damage models are still nasty. __________________ -- U-47 Personnel file Last edited by Gabucino; 03-07-10 at 03:41 PM.

03-04-10, 01:26 PM	#2
SteamWake Rear Admiral Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 13,224 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	Hotkey mod is already out although it has some minor issues. __________________ Follow the progress of Mr. Mulligan : http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147648

03-04-10, 01:28 PM	#3
wetwarev7 Grey Wolf Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Deep Waters Posts: 871 Downloads: 31 Uploads: 0	Not a very informative review. I can tell you don't like it, but why? Please explain things like what's wrong with the GUI, please. __________________ Guess I should change my sig since SH5 has an offline mode now

03-04-10, 01:50 PM	#8
Sailor Steve Eternal Patrol Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: High in the mountains of Utah Posts: 50,369 Downloads: 745 Uploads: 249	But I still agree with your last line. The first thing the interface of a WW2 sim should do is put us in mind of the period. __________________ “Never do anything you can't take back.” —Rocky Russo

03-04-10, 02:55 PM	#12
AVGWarhawk Lucky Jack Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a 1954 Buick. Posts: 28,261 Downloads: 90 Uploads: 0	Can I have your copy then? I will mail it off to Sailor Steve. __________________ “You're painfully alive in a drugged and dying culture.” ― Richard Yates, Revolutionary Road

03-04-10, 02:29 PM	#9
wetgoat Loader Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 87 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	Been playing the SH series ever since SH1. Have to say, when I first saw the interface, I had no clue what I was looking at. ( Fast foward 3 or 4 hours,) I'm more confused now than I was to start with, and that should be impossible! On a brighter note, my wife says my profanity laced ravings have slowed down. That's because I wore myself out and am now reduced to talking to myself, instead of screaming at the monitor.

03-04-10, 02:31 PM	#10
Undefined Gunner Join Date: May 2009 Location: Estonia Posts: 97 Downloads: 5 Uploads: 0	I knew this game would suck day 1

03-04-10, 02:51 PM	#11
Decoman Frogman Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oslo, Norway Posts: 306 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	@Gabucino Mass effect a great game? I would argue that it is the Fisher Price variant of RPGs I thought F.E.A.R 2 was great!

03-04-10, 03:26 PM	#14
Iron Budokan Sea Lord Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Texas Posts: 1,778 Downloads: 32 Uploads: 0	"I'm not playing this game." Trust me, you're not alone. __________________ "You will take on England wherever you find her ships, and you will break her power at sea." --Iron Coffins, Herbert A. Werner http://kennethmarkhoover.com