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TH0R · 02-21-10, 08:24 AM

I would just like to say that if I was the developer of the game and I had less than a year to do the game, I wouldn't loose too much time with where every exact rivet is in the boat. Instead, I would focus on the stable game and solid AI. The rest will be added / built by moders anyway.

Besides, if you have every constructed, built, did anything - you know that sometimes it is much easier for someone who isn't involved on the project to give constructive criticism or spot something you have missed.

flakmonkey · 02-21-10, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by JScones

I don't think such comparisons are fair. The devs are constrained by schedule, cost, and governed by system specifications, modders are not. I'm sure that if SH5 shipped with the modded SH3 images (as superior as they are), many less players would be able to enjoy them thanks to less than adequate computer specifications.

Besides, it's only a matter of time before such accuracy finds its way into SH5 - what you see there in SH3 is certainly not only doable in SH3.

While i partly aggree, and in fact would take sh5s interiors over sh3s anytime i must say that modders are subject to the same limitations too.
System specs, the mod was initially tested on my 1.2GHz pIII/512Mb ram xp machine, try running shV on that!
Cost, well i had a max budget of £5000 and spent most of that on 3ds max 2010... and some cake

Schedule, well there you have me, there is nobody cracking the whip for me to finish, but i will say that from concept to having it in game for just the diesel room took 4 days.

coronas · 02-21-10, 08:46 AM

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Very nice. Modders really are miracle workers.

....I agree and someday we'll see miracles like those in SHV. Time to time.

02-21-10, 08:52 AM

Nice work Flakmonkey.

I take the topic of tris1066 from the ubi.com forum here to subsim.com.

I hope that you spent your time and ethusiasm again in SH5.

Letum · 02-21-10, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Michal788

Is the sh3 picture not 2d ???

3d. You can move through it.

ERPP8 · 02-21-10, 09:37 AM

I think they look similar but SHV has more first person controls

ryanglavin · 02-21-10, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TarJak

I dunno why; it's been on display in one form or another since January 18: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=160385

Well I just missed this completely. sorry.

Tarnsman · 02-21-10, 11:04 AM

Sh5 U boat just looks too big, and I think they are using 120 watt light bulbs. Maybe the boat was rewired inthe 1980s?

Those guys in the bunks need a couple of buckets or the P.O. is going to be PO'd.

Anyway these things should be moddable. SH4 got crew added and SH3 has been transformed. I just hope it dosnt take 5 or 6 years to get SH5 to where it should be.

Rapt0r56 · 02-21-10, 11:21 AM

I think the a modded SH3 looks way better than SH5, but i also want to know what mod brings you the Officer Quarters, i thought FM and DD only working on the Aft Parts.

I want some real source infos...

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Or is this maybe an extra piece from DD and FM for the Final Version.

flakmonkey · 02-21-10, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rapt0r

I think the a modded SH3 looks way better than SH5, but i also want to know what mod brings you the Officer Quarters, i thought FM and DD only working on the Aft Parts.

I want some real source infos...

It is still my new interiors mod, the final aim is to have the whole sub modelled, the officers quarters have been added recently and were not there in the beta version.
Its still a bit of an unknown if the game engine will survive me adding the fore/aft torpedo rooms aswell. Although since DD recently managed to increase the fps by 100% or more its now my personal mission to lower it again

Rapt0r56 · 02-21-10, 11:28 AM

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It is still my new interiors mod, the final aim is to have the whole sub modelled, the officers quarters have been added recently and were not there in the beta version.
Its still a bit of an unknown if the game engine will survive me adding the fore/aft torpedo rooms aswell. Although since DD recently managed to increase the fps by 100% or more its now my personal mission to lower it again

I think i love you and DD...
A free hug for FM and DD from this Wolfy.

Jimbuna · 02-21-10, 11:30 AM

Good luck fm....this is real quality work

02-21-10, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

3d. You can move through it.

Ok i didnt know that.
Thnks

brett25 · 02-21-10, 01:40 PM

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the final aim is to have the whole sub modelled

omg! this is too much flakmonkey! thank you! im thinking we should set up and make a small paypal donation for you and then you can take yourself and family out to a nice dinner as a gift. If the lot of us give $1 or so each it would add up to enough for a nice dinner with a good beer!

OakGroove · 02-21-10, 01:46 PM

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I don't think such comparisons are fair. The devs are constrained by schedule, cost, and governed by system specifications, modders are not.

True. Difference is the people making those games are professionals. Working in a productive environment with set schedules, one would expect of them to be able to cope with this, and deliver quality regardless. Looking at some preview screens of SH5 though, makes me believe they took some shortcuts in development phase. Those textures slapped on the instruments look mighty familiar ...

02-21-10, 11:30 AM	#42
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 190,770 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	Good luck fm....this is real quality work __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

02-21-10, 08:24 AM	#31
TH0R XO Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Croatia Posts: 420 Downloads: 52 Uploads: 0	I would just like to say that if I was the developer of the game and I had less than a year to do the game, I wouldn't loose too much time with where every exact rivet is in the boat. Instead, I would focus on the stable game and solid AI. The rest will be added / built by moders anyway. Besides, if you have every constructed, built, did anything - you know that sometimes it is much easier for someone who isn't involved on the project to give constructive criticism or spot something you have missed.

02-21-10, 08:52 AM	#34
Michal788 Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Nice work Flakmonkey. I take the topic of tris1066 from the ubi.com forum here to subsim.com. I hope that you spent your time and ethusiasm again in SH5.

02-21-10, 09:37 AM	#36
ERPP8 Commodore Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: My House Posts: 608 Downloads: 161 Uploads: 0	I think they look similar but SHV has more first person controls

02-21-10, 11:04 AM	#38
Tarnsman Electrician's Mate Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 134 Downloads: 48 Uploads: 0	Sh5 U boat just looks too big, and I think they are using 120 watt light bulbs. Maybe the boat was rewired inthe 1980s? Those guys in the bunks need a couple of buckets or the P.O. is going to be PO'd. Anyway these things should be moddable. SH4 got crew added and SH3 has been transformed. I just hope it dosnt take 5 or 6 years to get SH5 to where it should be.