Will the DRM affect your Purchase?

[Letum]

Originally Posted by Orion Shadow

During 2 deployments to Iraq my buddies and I played SH3 and SH4 multi during the free time we had. Never had to connect to the internet, which most of the times if it was up and running was slower than dial-up speeds. So I'm going with the if internet is required I will start looking at other games to spend money on.

Here, here!

Same for the guys out at sea.

[KL-alfman]

Originally Posted by Hitman

Counting the votes of those who will not get it with this DRM by 5:12 PM GMT+1 time, and with a rough 50 USD per game

UBI has already lost 10.350 USD just in this thread

what I can tell from german boards (even the official UBI-board) 9 out of 10 are upset and angry about the "permanently being on-line"-issue and refer to the Subsim-poll as well
one member here tells the same about the spanish community. can't imagine UBI will ignore all of this .....

[karamazovnew]

Originally Posted by KL-alfman

what I can tell from german boards (even the official UBI-board) 9 out of 10 are upset and angry about the "permanently being on-line"-issue and refer to the Subsim-poll as well
one member here tells the same about the spanish community. can't imagine UBI will ignore all of this .....

Maybe it's all a trick.... Maybe they actually planned to release it without the DRM but now they want to scare us with this. In this way, we won't petition about VII's only and 43 campaign, we'll complain about the DRM. They'll eventually say: "Considering a few suggestions from the community, we decided to ship SH% without the DRM". We'll be all so thrilled that we won't stop smiling even when the game crashes on us.

[irish1958]

Originally Posted by TH0R

Makes no difference to me. I never played anything else than Type VII and till mid '43 so the decision isn't that much bothering me.

About DRM - hell, I do not like the idea at all, but since I am 24/7 connected to the Internet the only deciding factor will be the quality and modding possibilities of the game itself. Then comes in the next factor - money for the new PC on which to run it...

You may be doing all the modeling of the game yourself. No access to saved game files, continuous internet connection needed. If I make a major change in my game files, will the server let me play? Testing will be a disaster.
I am going back to SH3 and work on my medic mod.

[KL-alfman]

Originally Posted by karamazovnew

Maybe it's all a trick.... Maybe they actually planned to release it without the DRM but now they want to scare us with this. In this way, we won't petition about VII's only and 43 campaign, we'll complain about the DRM. They'll eventually say: "Considering a few suggestions from the community, we decided to ship SH% without the DRM". We'll be all so thrilled that we won't stop smiling even when the game crashes on us.

remarkable point of view!

but I doubt that UBI is that double-tongued .....

[Brag]

Dear readers

As you have probably guessed, the adventues of J.S. Balz were leading toward his joining the Kriegsmarine and going into action on SH5.

Since UBI announced SH5 will be a DRM controlled game, I am not buying it.

Therefore there won't be SH5 adventures for BALZ. So, I have decided to suspend the BALZ stories until I probably rejoin the fray on SH3 with GWX.

Sorry about this,

Brag

[Scotty]

Have not been on here for months.. darn figured I'd check on the status of SH5 !!
Lord, no way is heck will I buy this.. I don't like having to be online to play a sim/game -- kind of like renting a game... If my internet connection fails, or I want to cancel my connection and wait a few months to find another DSL or Cable provider to get online.. I can't play the game.. NO WAY!!

Whne I BUY a game, it's mine! I'm not dishing out $50 and a few yrs later the SH5 servers go down after going out of business, and I'm left with a broken game..
I'm getting sick of game developers acusing and punishing me and the rest of us as being thieves! Get over it or get out of business! I say to them.

For 30-40 years people have been pirating songs off the radeo stations, EVERYONE my age I know of has recorded songs off a radio station on a cassette player back in the day.. the music artists didn't throw a baby tantrum about it.. they took a loss, but still made profits galore!
Now a days the software people whine and cry over any dime they can't get there hands on.. it's pathetic.

This is not a post to say it's ok to pirate a game.. it's not! I'll make that clear!!!!!!!!

but to put it into perspective, to punish EVERYONE for a few thieves is going to drive the honnest people away.. the 99% of us who buy the game, you software companies are now driving away!

As a matter of fact it's the software people who are stealing, when you buy a game that requires internet connection to play, and a year later they go under chap 7 (no more site to login), you are left with NOTHING, and they still have your $50 -- who would be the thief here!!
Oh wait, I'm sorry, they would mail us all our $50 back to us.. YEAH!

I don't like the idea of stopping at 1943 or a type 7 only, as the late war is a challenge to stay alive , and other uboats are part of history too --

But even with only going to 1943, still lots of missions, and only a type VII, it's still the best uboat -- I would have still bought it when it hit $20... As with the new graphics, 1st person inside a uboat, it would still be fun, just differnt than SH3-4.... But with DRM.. not even $5 Buddy!!

One thing for sire, it makes us appreciate SH3 and SH4 much more now.

[TH0R]

Originally Posted by irish1958

You may be doing all the modeling of the game yourself. No access to saved game files, continuous internet connection needed. If I make a major change in my game files, will the server let me play? Testing will be a disaster.
I am going back to SH3 and work on my medic mod.

Saved games will be saved on the owner's PC and the server, or so they say...

[Thomen]

Originally Posted by TH0R

Saved games will be saved on the owner's PC and the server, or so they say...

So they say.. but which one will take precedence? Can you choose which (server or local) to load? If one gets corrupted, do the other automatically goes down the drain too or do they have a fail safe in their "Service" that that prevents that from happening?
What if you modify your local save? Will that update the server stored aswell, or overwrite your local one with the server one because the server assumes it is corrupt?

[frau kaleun]

Will the DRM affect your Purchase?

Yeah, definitely.

My original feeling - after coming here in the wake (heh) of buying SH3 and finding out that there was a new SH uboat sim in the works - was that I would wait a couple weeks and see what the reviews were like, then buy it if it looked/sounded good and see how well it ran on my current setup.

If I didn't run all that well, I figured I'd be happy enough playing SH3 for the time being and then give 5 another go somewhere down the line when I'm ready to upgrade some hardware. And by then there'd probably be patches and mods available to make it even better and more stable.

Now, eh. If if does indeed *require* a constant connection to their server just to run a mission or career in single-player mode, then I'm not gonna bother. Maybe by the time I am ready to upgrade some hardware 2-3 years down the line, the DRM won't be an issue anymore like some have speculated. If so, I'd probably be able to get it for less $$ anyway just by waiting.

[Hitman]

Originally Posted by Hitman
Counting the votes of those who will not get it with this DRM by 5:12 PM GMT+1 time, and with a rough 50 USD per game

UBI has already lost 10.350 USD just in this thread

It's now 8:49 PM GMT+1, and UBI has lost already 12.100 USD

Go UBI go

You'll make it into the Guiness book of records for displeasing formerly loyal customers ...

[trenken]

Voted makes no difference. I'm a big fan of DRM.

[Nicolas]

"Wait until the thing is removed"

I dont like at all steam, windows live games, etc. Online is for multi play, share, comunicate with the people or thing you want, connect to a server to play alone only to inform a company that you are a buyer... it feels intrusive.

[KG_Jag]

I won't consider buying it with this DRM or anything close to it.

If they remove it (or God forbid--release it without toxic DRM), I will look to the design and merits of the game to make a buy/no buy decision.

[tater]

Originally Posted by trenken

Voted makes no difference. I'm a big fan of DRM.

I have no problem in principle with a DRM system of some kind.

A DRM that phones home continuously during play or locks my game up? Nope, showstopper.

A DRM that auto-updates, and thus ends any ability to mod the game? No problem if the game is historically accurate, etc, out of the box. Is that even remotely likely given the history of SH3 or SH4? LOL, no. So that means the auto-update is also a show-stopper.