What a shame...

Lt.Fillipidis · 07-12-09, 07:02 AM

December 2nd, 1943.
South of Wales.
I was enjoying my trip to the western shores of Great Britain.
The weather was perfect. No wind, no waves whatsoever.
You could spot a sloop from 12km away.
And there it is! But its a bit bigger than a sloop.
Its a J&K Class Destroyer!
Its far away, the weather is perfect, why not shelling her? :rotfl:
And so i did. I managed to land a fair amount of 20hits on her before she rammed me. But the point is: She rammed me starboard side with a big angle.
In RL that would only mean a scratch on the paintjob and a well shaken crew inside. But instead the boat was destroyed...

Aint that a bit too much?
Its a bit unfair if the enemy can sink you so easily while i do minimum damage when i ram a battleship, on 17knots, in an IXC, on the point that a torpedo struck...

Jimbuna · 07-12-09, 07:14 AM

In RL a U-boat never rammed a BB (to the best of my knowledge and belief)....but DD's often rammed U-boats, often to the fatal demise of said U-boat...DD's often put themselves out of action as a result of the damage sustained, but not many sunk as a direct result of the ramming.

BulSoldier · 07-12-09, 07:43 AM

I think you underestimate the force of such impact. The uboot hull (both outer and pressure hull) were rather thin and i belive could easily be ruptured.

GoldenRivet · 07-12-09, 08:38 AM

not only that but the under water surfaces of the u-boat like the dive planes could easily be damaged by such a jolt... rendering your sub incapable of diving operations.

you would have had to surrender the boat anyhow - or be blown out of the water under such conditions.

Hanomag · 07-12-09, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BulSoldier

The uboot hull (both outer and pressure hull) were rather thin and i belive could easily be ruptured.

Just barely Seagull Sh@* resistent!

BulSoldier · 07-12-09, 11:26 AM

LOL , no wonder that this radical allied sea gulls keep raiding our harbors.

Torplexed · 07-12-09, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Lt.Fillipidis

Its a bit unfair if the enemy can sink you so easily while i do minimum damage when i ram a battleship, on 17knots, in an IXC, on the point that a torpedo struck...

Here's some pictures of the bow of the US sub Growler after ramming the 900 ton Japanese cargo ship Hayasaki, The front 25 feet of the bow was bent over in the collision, but the pressure hull was not damaged. The forward torpedo tubes were put out of action though. Hayasaki was damaged but eventually repaired. If this is what happens when a sub rams a cargo ship, I hate to think what happens when one rams a battleship.

Lt.Fillipidis · 07-12-09, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BulSoldier

I think you underestimate the force of such impact. The uboot hull (both outer and pressure hull) were rather thin and i belive could easily be ruptured.

If the event i speak about happened in RL, the destroyer would rather push the uboat aside, rather than sinking her. We were facing each other perfectly and on the last 400m, i changed course so the DD would lick the side...

PS Any other pics showing subs ramming ships?
I liked these ones.

Kpt. Lehmann · 07-12-09, 07:57 PM

Must have been absolute HELL steering the Growler home!

Somewhere I've seen a whole photo sequence of a U-boat getting rammed, rolled over... and I believe pretty much split in half.

I just wish I could remember where I saw those.

meduza · 07-13-09, 06:24 AM

U-210 rammed by HMCS Assiniboine:

Pics from http://www.mikekemble.com/ww2/uboat2.html

07-12-09, 07:02 AM	#1
Lt.Fillipidis Weps Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Veria, Greece Posts: 365 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	What a shame... December 2nd, 1943. South of Wales. I was enjoying my trip to the western shores of Great Britain. The weather was perfect. No wind, no waves whatsoever. You could spot a sloop from 12km away. And there it is! But its a bit bigger than a sloop. Its a J&K Class Destroyer! Its far away, the weather is perfect, why not shelling her? :rotfl: And so i did. I managed to land a fair amount of 20hits on her before she rammed me. But the point is: She rammed me starboard side with a big angle. In RL that would only mean a scratch on the paintjob and a well shaken crew inside. But instead the boat was destroyed... Aint that a bit too much? Its a bit unfair if the enemy can sink you so easily while i do minimum damage when i ram a battleship, on 17knots, in an IXC, on the point that a torpedo struck...

07-12-09, 07:14 AM	#2
Jimbuna Chief of the Boat Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 250 metres below the surface Posts: 191,357 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 13	In RL a U-boat never rammed a BB (to the best of my knowledge and belief)....but DD's often rammed U-boats, often to the fatal demise of said U-boat...DD's often put themselves out of action as a result of the damage sustained, but not many sunk as a direct result of the ramming. __________________ Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say something. Oh my God, not again!!

07-12-09, 07:43 AM	#3
BulSoldier Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Burgas/Bulgaria Posts: 550 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	I think you underestimate the force of such impact. The uboot hull (both outer and pressure hull) were rather thin and i belive could easily be ruptured. __________________ By the hour !

07-12-09, 08:38 AM	#4
GoldenRivet Subsim Aviator Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Texas Posts: 8,729 Downloads: 146 Uploads: 0	not only that but the under water surfaces of the u-boat like the dive planes could easily be damaged by such a jolt... rendering your sub incapable of diving operations. you would have had to surrender the boat anyhow - or be blown out of the water under such conditions. __________________

07-12-09, 11:26 AM	#6
BulSoldier Samurai Navy Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Burgas/Bulgaria Posts: 550 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	LOL , no wonder that this radical allied sea gulls keep raiding our harbors. __________________ By the hour !

07-12-09, 07:57 PM	#9
Kpt. Lehmann GWX Project Director Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The Republic of Texas Posts: 7,008 Downloads: 124 Uploads: 0	Must have been absolute HELL steering the Growler home! Somewhere I've seen a whole photo sequence of a U-boat getting rammed, rolled over... and I believe pretty much split in half. I just wish I could remember where I saw those. __________________ www.thegreywolves.com All you need is good men. - Heinrich Lehmann-Willenbrock

07-13-09, 06:24 AM	#10
meduza Ace of the Deep Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: on patrol Posts: 1,035 Downloads: 40 Uploads: 0	U-210 rammed by HMCS Assiniboine: Pics from http://www.mikekemble.com/ww2/uboat2.html __________________