"The list of what the Osprey can't do is longer than the list of what it can do."

Skybird · 06-30-09, 12:15 PM

It seems the V22 Osprey does not meet expectations.

http://www.reuters.com/article/rbssI...090623?sp=true

Dowly · 06-30-09, 12:18 PM

I still think it's just one big juicy target for the enemy to shoot at.

AVGWarhawk · 06-30-09, 12:19 PM

This aircraft was doomed right after it left the drawing board.

06-30-09, 12:57 PM

It should have been named Albatross, used to mean an encumbrance, or a wearisome burden, because that is what it is.

SteamWake · 06-30-09, 01:25 PM

A plane that thinks its a helicopter that thinks its a plane

When I first saw one of these things and the size of the rotors I thought... heeeeya thatll work

Wasent there cases of them literally shaking themselves to pieces in early test stages.

Sort of like helicopters bound to self destruct on the slightest mishap.

AVGWarhawk · 06-30-09, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Dowly

I still think it's just one big juicy target for the enemy to shoot at.

That's if it does not crash before it get to the action

Really, it is a POS and the amount of time/money/effort put into it the military was not going to scrap the entire program.

http://www.zpub.com/notes/osprey.html

http://greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-...?msg_id=004x0Q

Here is that beauty inflight, well, kind of, well, attempting, well...oh never mind

Watch the video

http://www.aviation-history.com/video/v22.htm

Onkel Neal · 06-30-09, 03:08 PM

Here's the thing; the Osprey may not work as well as wished for, but I think it's good to keep pushing the envelope on technical designs. A lot of innovations have been discovered that way.

AVGWarhawk · 06-30-09, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Neal Stevens

Here's the thing; the Osprey may not work as well as wished for, but I think it's good to keep pushing the envelope on technical designs. A lot of innovations have been discovered that way.

True but after 30 deaths and numerous other issues, time to throw in the towel on this bird.

Letum · 06-30-09, 03:35 PM

Isn't the list of what anything can't do longer than the list of things it can do?

Platapus · 06-30-09, 03:40 PM

a hundred million a copy?????

Yikes!

It is cooleo technology but if it does not really help solve a problem, it is a rather expensive toy.

Aramike · 06-30-09, 04:47 PM

Didn't Dick Cheney try to stop funding for this when he was SecDef?

Platapus · 06-30-09, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Aramike

Didn't Dick Cheney try to stop funding for this when he was SecDef?

I think that was the Navy's A-12 another albatross.

Aramike · 06-30-09, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

I think that was the Navy's A-12 another albatross.

You got me curious so I looked it up. Looks like he killed the A-12 completely, while he attempted but failed to kill the V-22, along with the F-14D, AND the Seawolf sub. Interesting stuff...

http://www.issues2000.org/celeb/dick_cheney_defense.htm

Platapus · 06-30-09, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Aramike

You got me curious so I looked it up. Looks like he killed the A-12 completely, while he attempted but failed to kill the V-22, along with the F-14D, AND the Seawolf sub. Interesting stuff...

http://www.issues2000.org/celeb/dick_cheney_defense.htm

Ah I did not know Cheney tried to kill the V-22 also. Good info.

SUBMAN1 · 06-30-09, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Letum

Isn't the list of what anything can't do longer than the list of things it can do?

Damn straight it is!

Matter of fact, the Osprey has 99% of all of its kinks ironed out. No one has ever made something like this so there is bound to be a problem or two in the beginning. Sad about the loss of life.

I've been in an Osprey and it is one fine piece of equipment these days.

-S

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