poor visibility

brendan · 01-25-09, 02:15 AM

during my last patrol, i had no contact (even on the rockall bank). I decided to go home through the irish sea. the weather was rough, i found some merchants off liverpool, but visibility was so low that i coudn't see them until 250 meters. couldn't even get a solution from the watch officer. i got too close to a large merchant, fired 2 torpedoes blind (both bounced off at 200 m) and the he blew both my periscopes off and killed my whole watch crew. then i gave up and headed home. anyone have any techniques or advice?

Weiss Pinguin · 01-25-09, 02:29 AM

During poor weather you can stay submerged (When oxygen and battery capacity allow) and use your hydrophones to detect any ships in the area. 'Blind' underwater attacks, where you rely solely on your hydrophones, are possible, but much more difficult than a normal visual attack. (A tutorial on hydrophone hunting can be found here)

Beyond that... I'm not really sure there's a whole lot you can do, except hope for clear weather or go hunting elsewhere. :hmm: Foul weather eliminates any chance of using the deck gun, and the flak gun is all but useless against a merchant, provided you can even man the flak gun in poor weather...

UberTorpedo · 01-25-09, 02:53 AM

brendan,

Here's some other hydrophone hunting tutorials you might find interesting.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...7821098535/p/1
and
http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110619

The video (U42HydroHunt.exe) for both posts has also been uploaded to my Filefront. See link under my sig

cheers

Lzs von swe · 01-25-09, 10:02 AM

When, and if, I decide to attack in that kind of weather I plot the ships course as precise as possible and get myself positioned ahead and on the same "line".
Let the ship overtake you, and hope it´s not just a fishing boat

, staying some 50-100m to the side on parallel course.
Set your torpedoes to magnetic pistol and fire them when the ship is closing to 300m ahead of you, almost out of sight.
But if it´s some 15m/s wind and heavy sea I don´t bother, too big risk of waisting
expensive torpedoes.

Faamecanic · 01-25-09, 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzs von swe

When, and if, I decide to attack in that kind of weather I plot the ships course as precise as possible and get myself positioned ahead and on the same "line".
Let the ship overtake you, and hope it´s not just a fishing boat

, staying some 50-100m to the side on parallel course.
Set your torpedoes to magnetic pistol and fire them when the ship is closing to 300m ahead of you, almost out of sight.
But if it´s some 15m/s wind and heavy sea I don´t bother, too big risk of waisting
expensive torpedoes.

Thats what I do

What was frustrating was SH3 weather being 15 m/s and rain for more than a MONTH on end...

GWX 3.0 solves that

If your not playing with GWX brendan..,.. then your missing half the game! Reccomend you download and install immediately.

A Very Super Market · 01-25-09, 12:10 PM

3.0 has the new enviroment that makes it even harder to see at night, so..... Good luck! :rotfl:

brendan · 01-25-09, 12:31 PM

yeah i have gwx. went from mildly entertaining to full on addiction. i wouldn't even play the stock version after seeing 3.0. is sh3 commander as good of an improvement? haven't gotten that yet

A Very Super Market · 01-25-09, 12:40 PM

SH3 commander is something that you should always have. It not a mod per se, but it makes changing your crew a hell of a lot easier, as well as several immersive features. It doesn't pose any risk to your game, so no worries about crashes. You can also set various options with Commander, including water opacity, TDC levels though you still can't change the visibility problems.

brendan · 01-26-09, 08:28 AM

so i could add that now, without an uninstall? i saw some compatibility files for commander with gwx3, but i didn't download them at the time, can i add them after i add commander without problems?

Captain Nemo · 01-26-09, 08:57 AM

If your machine can handle it, switch to the GWX 16 km atmosphere which in my opinion is a vast improvement over the 8 km atmosphere. It also has the advantage of increasing your visibility in poor weather from around 300 metres to 1,000 metres.

Nemo

Captain Nemo · 01-26-09, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brendan

so i could add that now, without an uninstall? i saw some compatibility files for commander with gwx3, but i didn't download them at the time, can i add them after i add commander without problems?

Yes you can add SH Commander at any time without the need to uninstall SH3. Commander is a standalone program that enhances SH3 game play enormously. A new version (3.2) has just been released, you can find out more here http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=147237 . Just follow the instructions for using it with GWX 3.0.

Nemo

brendan · 01-28-09, 01:14 PM

downloaded it, have gwx 3, where can i find the commander files for compatibility w/gwx? i think i have the wrong thing or can't unzip it or something and want to find out before messing something up, thanks

Faamecanic · 01-28-09, 01:54 PM

Check out the second post in this thread...I had the same question a few weeks ago... Maybe someone needs to add the GWX 3.0 SH3 commander files links to the GWX 3.0 release thread??

http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=146575

brendan · 01-28-09, 02:54 PM

i downloaded the files, but i think i screwed up somewhere. i followed the sh3 commander install instructions. i think i overwrote the new cfg files with the old ones by mistake. so i downloaded it again, but this time i got confused and installed the 3.0 files directly into the sh3 commander cfg, not a temporary folder, what should i do?

brendan · 01-28-09, 09:57 PM

ah, it seems to work alright

01-25-09, 02:15 AM	#1
brendan Seaman Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 32 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	poor visibility during my last patrol, i had no contact (even on the rockall bank). I decided to go home through the irish sea. the weather was rough, i found some merchants off liverpool, but visibility was so low that i coudn't see them until 250 meters. couldn't even get a solution from the watch officer. i got too close to a large merchant, fired 2 torpedoes blind (both bounced off at 200 m) and the he blew both my periscopes off and killed my whole watch crew. then i gave up and headed home. anyone have any techniques or advice?

01-25-09, 02:29 AM	#2
Weiss Pinguin Ocean Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Auburn, Alabama Posts: 3,333 Downloads: 101 Uploads: 0	During poor weather you can stay submerged (When oxygen and battery capacity allow) and use your hydrophones to detect any ships in the area. 'Blind' underwater attacks, where you rely solely on your hydrophones, are possible, but much more difficult than a normal visual attack. (A tutorial on hydrophone hunting can be found here) Beyond that... I'm not really sure there's a whole lot you can do, except hope for clear weather or go hunting elsewhere. :hmm: Foul weather eliminates any chance of using the deck gun, and the flak gun is all but useless against a merchant, provided you can even man the flak gun in poor weather... __________________

01-25-09, 02:53 AM	#3
UberTorpedo Planesman Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Southern California Posts: 194 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 0	brendan, Here's some other hydrophone hunting tutorials you might find interesting. http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/t...7821098535/p/1 and http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=110619 The video (U42HydroHunt.exe) for both posts has also been uploaded to my Filefront. See link under my sig cheers __________________ Download Link for Mods and Other Goodies...

01-25-09, 10:02 AM	#4
Lzs von swe Ace of the Deep Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Norrkoping, Sweden Posts: 1,074 Downloads: 66 Uploads: 0	When, and if, I decide to attack in that kind of weather I plot the ships course as precise as possible and get myself positioned ahead and on the same "line". Let the ship overtake you, and hope it´s not just a fishing boat , staying some 50-100m to the side on parallel course. Set your torpedoes to magnetic pistol and fire them when the ship is closing to 300m ahead of you, almost out of sight. But if it´s some 15m/s wind and heavy sea I don´t bother, too big risk of waisting expensive torpedoes. __________________

01-25-09, 12:10 PM	#6
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	3.0 has the new enviroment that makes it even harder to see at night, so..... Good luck! :rotfl: __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

01-25-09, 12:31 PM	#7
brendan Seaman Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 32 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	yeah i have gwx. went from mildly entertaining to full on addiction. i wouldn't even play the stock version after seeing 3.0. is sh3 commander as good of an improvement? haven't gotten that yet

01-25-09, 12:40 PM	#8
A Very Super Market The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep in the Wild Canadian suburbs. Posts: 1,468 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	SH3 commander is something that you should always have. It not a mod per se, but it makes changing your crew a hell of a lot easier, as well as several immersive features. It doesn't pose any risk to your game, so no worries about crashes. You can also set various options with Commander, including water opacity, TDC levels though you still can't change the visibility problems. __________________ The entire German garrison of Vanviken, right here in your thread!

01-26-09, 08:28 AM	#9
brendan Seaman Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 32 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	so i could add that now, without an uninstall? i saw some compatibility files for commander with gwx3, but i didn't download them at the time, can i add them after i add commander without problems?

01-26-09, 08:57 AM	#10
Captain Nemo Ace of the Deep Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 1,144 Downloads: 54 Uploads: 0	If your machine can handle it, switch to the GWX 16 km atmosphere which in my opinion is a vast improvement over the 8 km atmosphere. It also has the advantage of increasing your visibility in poor weather from around 300 metres to 1,000 metres. Nemo __________________ "I'm afraid there is no disguising the fact that King's obsession with the Pacific and the Battle of Washington cost us dear in the Battle of the Atlantic". Sir John Slessor GCB, DSO, MC, DL AOC-in-C Coastal Command RAF ___________________________________________

01-28-09, 01:14 PM	#12
brendan Seaman Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 32 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	downloaded it, have gwx 3, where can i find the commander files for compatibility w/gwx? i think i have the wrong thing or can't unzip it or something and want to find out before messing something up, thanks

01-28-09, 01:54 PM	#13
Faamecanic Ace of the Deep Join Date: May 2005 Location: Off your Stb side with good solution Posts: 1,065 Downloads: 44 Uploads: 0	Check out the second post in this thread...I had the same question a few weeks ago... Maybe someone needs to add the GWX 3.0 SH3 commander files links to the GWX 3.0 release thread?? http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=146575

01-28-09, 02:54 PM	#14
brendan Seaman Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 32 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	i downloaded the files, but i think i screwed up somewhere. i followed the sh3 commander install instructions. i think i overwrote the new cfg files with the old ones by mistake. so i downloaded it again, but this time i got confused and installed the 3.0 files directly into the sh3 commander cfg, not a temporary folder, what should i do?

01-28-09, 09:57 PM	#15
brendan Seaman Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 32 Downloads: 35 Uploads: 0	ah, it seems to work alright