Why you can't ever trust the news... manipulation

LoBlo · 08-14-06, 08:20 PM

I never trust the news. Most of the time its premise is not to inform, but to manipulate your reactions.

http://www.seconddraft.org/streaming/pallywood.wmv

This is an interesting clip showcasing some pretty intricate staging of "news"

Edit: Better link.

LoBlo · 08-14-06, 09:32 PM

Edited the link above to link to the full movie instead of a clip.

There are some other examples given. Here is the main link

http://www.seconddraft.org/movies.php

STEED · 08-15-06, 04:05 AM

I have stopped watching the BBC News on the TV, leans to much in favour of muslims, I also stopped watching there political programmes to much in favour of political correctness and this present government.

Camaero · 08-15-06, 04:12 AM

I stay away from all news channels as much as possible. The mindless drone of over exageration and ignorant stupid babble is just too much for me to take. I can't stand politically correctness and I can't stand polititions or lawyers and that is all that is ever on the news! (Besides your staged war shots from Pallywood :rotfl: )

It is all one big state of fear setup.

TteFAboB · 08-15-06, 07:10 AM

The only news channel I ever watch, and only by chance, luck or accident when zapping around, is FoxNews.

CNN, BBC and others makes me mad. FoxNews makes me laugh. It's all very popular, very obvious. I'd rather all news channels were like this. Be open CNN, don't try to hide behind a facade of serious, indepedent, impartial journalism.

Journalism? Nevermind, my bad.

Yahoshua · 08-15-06, 08:09 AM

The newscasters don't seem to realize that reporting something GOOD (A news item that doesn't involve death or bloodshed or a fear-factor of something) is actually healthy for you!

Type941 · 08-15-06, 02:07 PM

Fox news is the honest liar.

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Originally Posted by TteFAboB

The only news channel I ever watch, and only by chance, luck or accident when zapping around, is FoxNews.

CNN, BBC and others makes me mad. FoxNews makes me laugh. It's all very popular, very obvious. I'd rather all news channels were like this. Be open CNN, don't try to hide behind a facade of serious, indepedent, impartial journalism.

Journalism? Nevermind, my bad.

rcs929 · 08-16-06, 11:15 PM

It would be nice to get a straight news story without the biased spin for a change. I don't need or want the media to form my opinion for me

August · 08-16-06, 11:40 PM

I read this the other day:

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Originally Posted by author Ralph Peters

Lesson 2: The global media can overturn the verdict of the battlefield.

Too many politicians and generals still don't get it. This new truth about war slapped us in the face during the First Battle of Fallujah. Now, facing a hostile global media, the Israelis are learning it.

mog · 08-17-06, 03:22 AM

Never mind the first battle of Fallujah; that truth has never been more apparent than with the Tet offensive over 30 years ago.

SkvyWvr · 08-17-06, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by August

I read this the other day:

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Originally Posted by author Ralph Peters

Lesson 2: The global media can overturn the verdict of the battlefield.

Too many politicians and generals still don't get it. This new truth about war slapped us in the face during the First Battle of Fallujah. Now, facing a hostile global media, the Israelis are learning it.

Too true. I believe Walter Conkrite said "we have lost the war" when reporting on the Tet Offensive during the Vietnam war. This lead to an intensified anti-war movement. The truth, which came out during an interview with the Viet general leading that offensive, is that they felt it was over for them and the Viet government was considering call for peace talks.

STEED · 08-17-06, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by rcs929

It would be nice to get a straight news story without the biased spin for a change. I don't need or want the media to form my opinion for me

I agree, I wish they would tell the news without all the gloss and tripe, but they never will.

don1reed · 08-17-06, 03:22 PM

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The difference is that in our society is centered around the ideals of tolerance and free choice as key

I truly wish this were true, LoBlo, but I was thinking about those religious right folks that blow up birth control centers or the bomber at the Atlanta Olympics in the name of their god.

In my way of thinking, both sides have extremists. I avoid them both...at all costs.

edit: oh yeah, almost forgot about those folks that show up at G.I.'s funerals and picket, yelling that they had it coming to them. Disgraceful, and yep, no tolerance.

08-14-06, 08:20 PM	#1
LoBlo Subsim Diehard Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas! Posts: 971 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 3	Why you can't ever trust the news... manipulation I never trust the news. Most of the time its premise is not to inform, but to manipulate your reactions. http://www.seconddraft.org/streaming/pallywood.wmv This is an interesting clip showcasing some pretty intricate staging of "news" Edit: Better link. __________________ "Seek not to offend or annoy... only to speak the truth"-a wise man Last edited by LoBlo; 08-14-06 at 09:32 PM.

08-14-06, 09:32 PM	#2
LoBlo Subsim Diehard Join Date: May 2006 Location: Texas! Posts: 971 Downloads: 78 Uploads: 3	Edited the link above to link to the full movie instead of a clip. There are some other examples given. Here is the main link http://www.seconddraft.org/movies.php __________________ "Seek not to offend or annoy... only to speak the truth"-a wise man

08-15-06, 04:05 AM	#3
STEED Lucky Jack Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Down Town UK Posts: 27,695 Downloads: 89 Uploads: 48	I have stopped watching the BBC News on the TV, leans to much in favour of muslims, I also stopped watching there political programmes to much in favour of political correctness and this present government. __________________ Dr Who rest in peace 1963-2017. To borrow Davros saying...I NAME YOU CHIBNALL THE DESTROYER OF DR WHO YOU KILLED IT!

08-15-06, 04:12 AM	#4
Camaero The Old Man Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: USA, Massachusetts Posts: 1,477 Downloads: 18 Uploads: 0	I stay away from all news channels as much as possible. The mindless drone of over exageration and ignorant stupid babble is just too much for me to take. I can't stand politically correctness and I can't stand polititions or lawyers and that is all that is ever on the news! (Besides your staged war shots from Pallywood :rotfl: ) It is all one big state of fear setup. __________________

08-15-06, 07:10 AM	#5
TteFAboB Admiral Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 2,247 Downloads: 4 Uploads: 0	The only news channel I ever watch, and only by chance, luck or accident when zapping around, is FoxNews. CNN, BBC and others makes me mad. FoxNews makes me laugh. It's all very popular, very obvious. I'd rather all news channels were like this. Be open CNN, don't try to hide behind a facade of serious, indepedent, impartial journalism. Journalism? Nevermind, my bad. __________________ "Tout ce qui est exagéré est insignifiant." ("All that is exaggerated is insignificant.") - Talleyrand

08-15-06, 08:09 AM	#6
Yahoshua The Old Man Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,493 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	The newscasters don't seem to realize that reporting something GOOD (A news item that doesn't involve death or bloodshed or a fear-factor of something) is actually healthy for you! __________________ Science is the organized unpredictability that strives not to set limits to mans' capabilities, but is the engine by which the limits of mans' understanding is defined-Yahoshua

08-16-06, 11:15 PM	#8
rcs929 Sailor man Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: landlocked USA Posts: 44 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	It would be nice to get a straight news story without the biased spin for a change. I don't need or want the media to form my opinion for me

08-17-06, 03:22 AM	#10
mog Medic Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sydney Posts: 163 Downloads: 0 Uploads: 0	Never mind the first battle of Fallujah; that truth has never been more apparent than with the Tet offensive over 30 years ago.