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LoBlo 08-14-06 08:20 PM

Why you can't ever trust the news... manipulation
 
I never trust the news. Most of the time its premise is not to inform, but to manipulate your reactions.

http://www.seconddraft.org/streaming/pallywood.wmv

This is an interesting clip showcasing some pretty intricate staging of "news"

Edit: Better link.

LoBlo 08-14-06 09:32 PM

Edited the link above to link to the full movie instead of a clip.

There are some other examples given. Here is the main link

http://www.seconddraft.org/movies.php

STEED 08-15-06 04:05 AM

I have stopped watching the BBC News on the TV, leans to much in favour of muslims, I also stopped watching there political programmes to much in favour of political correctness and this present government.

Camaero 08-15-06 04:12 AM

I stay away from all news channels as much as possible. The mindless drone of over exageration and ignorant stupid babble is just too much for me to take. I can't stand politically correctness and I can't stand polititions or lawyers and that is all that is ever on the news! (Besides your staged war shots from Pallywood :rotfl: )

It is all one big state of fear setup.

TteFAboB 08-15-06 07:10 AM

The only news channel I ever watch, and only by chance, luck or accident when zapping around, is FoxNews.

CNN, BBC and others makes me mad. FoxNews makes me laugh. It's all very popular, very obvious. I'd rather all news channels were like this. Be open CNN, don't try to hide behind a facade of serious, indepedent, impartial journalism.

Journalism? Nevermind, my bad.

Yahoshua 08-15-06 08:09 AM

The newscasters don't seem to realize that reporting something GOOD (A news item that doesn't involve death or bloodshed or a fear-factor of something) is actually healthy for you!

Type941 08-15-06 02:07 PM

Fox news is the honest liar. :lol:


Quote:

Originally Posted by TteFAboB
The only news channel I ever watch, and only by chance, luck or accident when zapping around, is FoxNews.

CNN, BBC and others makes me mad. FoxNews makes me laugh. It's all very popular, very obvious. I'd rather all news channels were like this. Be open CNN, don't try to hide behind a facade of serious, indepedent, impartial journalism.

Journalism? Nevermind, my bad.


rcs929 08-16-06 11:15 PM

It would be nice to get a straight news story without the biased spin for a change. I don't need or want the media to form my opinion for me :down:

August 08-16-06 11:40 PM

I read this the other day:

Quote:

Originally Posted by author Ralph Peters
Lesson 2: The global media can overturn the verdict of the battlefield.

Too many politicians and generals still don't get it. This new truth about war slapped us in the face during the First Battle of Fallujah. Now, facing a hostile global media, the Israelis are learning it.


mog 08-17-06 03:22 AM

Never mind the first battle of Fallujah; that truth has never been more apparent than with the Tet offensive over 30 years ago.

SkvyWvr 08-17-06 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by August
I read this the other day:

Quote:

Originally Posted by author Ralph Peters
Lesson 2: The global media can overturn the verdict of the battlefield.

Too many politicians and generals still don't get it. This new truth about war slapped us in the face during the First Battle of Fallujah. Now, facing a hostile global media, the Israelis are learning it.


Too true. I believe Walter Conkrite said "we have lost the war" when reporting on the Tet Offensive during the Vietnam war. This lead to an intensified anti-war movement. The truth, which came out during an interview with the Viet general leading that offensive, is that they felt it was over for them and the Viet government was considering call for peace talks.

don1reed 08-17-06 03:01 PM

its always bad business to get in between two brothers when they're fighting. its common sense.

the middle east is unsolvable. turn away and seek alternative fuel...let the brothers fight. they both believe their god gave them the land upon which they struggle. how many families have been destroyed over arguement of birthright since Abraham?

turn away from them. you'll not see an end to this in your lifetime either. fight on, Issac & Ishmael.

i see no difference between the religious right here in the west and islamic extremists in the east...they both think they're right...yes, through the ages, they've both killed innocent people for their god. i easily paint them with the same brush.

LoBlo 08-17-06 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by don1reed
i see no difference between the religious right here in the west and islamic extremists in the east...they both think they're right...yes, through the ages, they've both killed innocent people for their god. i easily paint them with the same brush.

You've got to be kidding. The difference is that in our society is centered around the ideals of tolerance and free choice as key. Our ideals are that people are viewed as free to practice as they will with no pursecution.... At the same time, Eastern extremist vow to murder and destroy any that see things not in their way.

That is the difference.

STEED 08-17-06 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rcs929
It would be nice to get a straight news story without the biased spin for a change. I don't need or want the media to form my opinion for me :down:

I agree, I wish they would tell the news without all the gloss and tripe, but they never will. :nope:

don1reed 08-17-06 03:22 PM

Quote:

The difference is that in our society is centered around the ideals of tolerance and free choice as key
I truly wish this were true, LoBlo, but I was thinking about those religious right folks that blow up birth control centers or the bomber at the Atlanta Olympics in the name of their god.

In my way of thinking, both sides have extremists. I avoid them both...at all costs.

edit: oh yeah, almost forgot about those folks that show up at G.I.'s funerals and picket, yelling that they had it coming to them. Disgraceful, and yep, no tolerance.


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