Engaging convoys and escorts in SH4

Ghayth203 · 09-13-18, 10:29 PM

Guys I've been playing Silent Hunter III, and finished its career early this year, and I returned to sub sims a week ago with Silent Hunter IV: Wolves of the Pacific about a week ago, when I used to play Silent Hunter III, I wouldn't fear corvettes or armed trawler' escorts... Engage them with deck gun, lure the destroyer to go a straight line towards my stern tube, fish in the water then spray and sink towards the see bed, then I keep shadowing the convoy untill they stopped zigzagging and evading, then I use my torps, send a salvo, score multiple hits & kills, then home and tea...

But when I play SH4, the only escorts I meet are destroyers packing good punches with their single or twin turrets across all their deck, so it would be suicidal to meet them with a stern mounted 4"/50 cal... So I get it, you should never shoot a shell towards a Fubuki or a Minekaze class destroyer, but in order to sink a ship in a jap convoy or a task force, how would you get close enough to fire? I mean escorts are all around, and there is no gap or loophole to exploit it, and early war torps like Mk. 10 and Mk. 14 don't do you any favor..?

How to engage convoys and escorts in SH4?

Aktungbby · 09-13-18, 10:38 PM

Ghayth203!

Cybermat47 · 09-14-18, 01:54 AM

Attack at night, on the surface, and at maximum range. Let your fish loose and run like hell. Be as far away as possible when the torpedoes hit. Then reload and do it again.

The Mk.14’s long range is your friend.

09-14-18, 04:42 AM

Ahoy @Ghayth203,

and welcome to subsim!

As for your question about escorts and / or destroyers, consider - you are the commander of a submarine ... not a destroyer or even a cruiser.
So act like a CO of a submarine, then it works well with the attacks.

Ghayth203 · 09-14-18, 02:00 PM

Thank u guys for all the answers, I appreciate it well, as I found a new strategy to deal with escorts

Pretty contradictory to what Bleiente said of acting like a commander of a sub, this strategy or tactic or whatever it is, it instructs you to go right towards or right away from your chaser, that way you put him in your 0 or 180 (making and easy solution and using contact influence pretty devastating), flood three torps, the first one that you should fire would have to go offset, I use 1 degree left, that way, when you fire it, you know he is going to dodge right, then the second and third, should go offset 3 degrees right as I recommend, he will be going right towards the second and the third fish, fire your first one at -1000/980 yards mark (Although I live in a metric country, but for immersion stuff I would use yards and feet and miles to measure, it's a fleet boat, not a u-boat or your boat

)

Anyway, I sunk to Fubukis that way as I reported a convoy contact and they told me to inflict damage to the escorts for followup attacks

Hope you find that effective

09-14-18, 02:23 PM

Always doubt what we say but try it out.
Back then, when there was still SH2 vs DC, I deliberately did things that were considered impossible many times online, in the end I was the most vicious destroyer commander on the international scene.

Here we only perform a fictional fight and it is intended to give the player fun.
Test your limits.

09-13-18, 10:29 PM	#1
Ghayth203 Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Tunisia Posts: 13 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Engaging convoys and escorts in SH4 Guys I've been playing Silent Hunter III, and finished its career early this year, and I returned to sub sims a week ago with Silent Hunter IV: Wolves of the Pacific about a week ago, when I used to play Silent Hunter III, I wouldn't fear corvettes or armed trawler' escorts... Engage them with deck gun, lure the destroyer to go a straight line towards my stern tube, fish in the water then spray and sink towards the see bed, then I keep shadowing the convoy untill they stopped zigzagging and evading, then I use my torps, send a salvo, score multiple hits & kills, then home and tea... But when I play SH4, the only escorts I meet are destroyers packing good punches with their single or twin turrets across all their deck, so it would be suicidal to meet them with a stern mounted 4"/50 cal... So I get it, you should never shoot a shell towards a Fubuki or a Minekaze class destroyer, but in order to sink a ship in a jap convoy or a task force, how would you get close enough to fire? I mean escorts are all around, and there is no gap or loophole to exploit it, and early war torps like Mk. 10 and Mk. 14 don't do you any favor..? How to engage convoys and escorts in SH4?

09-13-18, 10:38 PM	#2
Aktungbby Gefallen Engel U-666 Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: On a tilted, overheated, overpopulated spinning mudball on Collision course with Andromeda Galaxy Posts: 30,017 Downloads: 24 Uploads: 0	Welcome aboard! Ghayth203! __________________ "Only two things are infinite; The Universe and human squirrelyness?!!

09-14-18, 01:54 AM	#3
Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,408 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 23	Attack at night, on the surface, and at maximum range. Let your fish loose and run like hell. Be as far away as possible when the torpedoes hit. Then reload and do it again. The Mk.14’s long range is your friend. __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394

09-14-18, 04:42 AM	#4
Bleiente Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Ahoy @Ghayth203, and welcome to subsim! As for your question about escorts and / or destroyers, consider - you are the commander of a submarine ... not a destroyer or even a cruiser. So act like a CO of a submarine, then it works well with the attacks.

09-14-18, 02:00 PM	#5
Ghayth203 Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: Tunisia Posts: 13 Downloads: 17 Uploads: 0	Thank u guys for all the answers, I appreciate it well, as I found a new strategy to deal with escorts Pretty contradictory to what Bleiente said of acting like a commander of a sub, this strategy or tactic or whatever it is, it instructs you to go right towards or right away from your chaser, that way you put him in your 0 or 180 (making and easy solution and using contact influence pretty devastating), flood three torps, the first one that you should fire would have to go offset, I use 1 degree left, that way, when you fire it, you know he is going to dodge right, then the second and third, should go offset 3 degrees right as I recommend, he will be going right towards the second and the third fish, fire your first one at -1000/980 yards mark (Although I live in a metric country, but for immersion stuff I would use yards and feet and miles to measure, it's a fleet boat, not a u-boat or your boat ) Anyway, I sunk to Fubukis that way as I reported a convoy contact and they told me to inflict damage to the escorts for followup attacks Hope you find that effective

09-14-18, 02:23 PM	#6
Bleiente Stowaway Posts: n/a Downloads: Uploads:	Always doubt what we say but try it out. Back then, when there was still SH2 vs DC, I deliberately did things that were considered impossible many times online, in the end I was the most vicious destroyer commander on the international scene. Here we only perform a fictional fight and it is intended to give the player fun. Test your limits.