Senate Effort to Ban Russian Software on US Military Systems

vienna · 07-02-17, 03:46 AM

If this goes through, it will be interesting to see the fallout effect:

Senate effort to ban Russian software on US military systems would have far-reaching impact, sources say --

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/senate-eff...opstories.html

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Cybermat47 · 07-02-17, 07:01 AM

I'm surprised that the US Military would have Russian software... the USA and Russia aren't exactly best buddies...

Skybird · 07-02-17, 08:30 AM

Of course you do not want a Russian cmpany providing software for your vital data infrastructure in the military.

You also do not want Chinese chips in your weapons, may they be explcitly or implcitly included.

I add you also do not want Apple, Google and Microsoft providing you with software and operation systems in your critical infrastructure. Not as a non-American and not as an American party. Nor do you want to use business company services falling under American legislation and having their servers in the US or in states where the US have easy access.

China has forced Microsoft that if they want to keep their access to the Chinese market they had to open their secret Windows source code so that the Chinese can pick Windows apart and extract those parts making Windows prone to American attacks. You get a heavily Chinese-modified Windows only in China, legally. More convincing it would have been from their POV if they would ban American software completely.

Russian state and military still order and buy increasing numbers of mechanical type writers since some years. Westerners laughed about this and called it paranoia at first. Now, some years later, the laughing has fallen silent.

MaDef · 07-02-17, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cybermat47

I'm surprised that the US Military would have Russian software... the USA and Russia aren't exactly best buddies...

The U.S. military wouldn't as they have a very strict policy about what goes on their systems (at least they used to). This is geared more towards other government agencies and civilian contractors who connect to the various military networks.

Cybermat47 · 07-02-17, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaDef

The U.S. military wouldn't as they have a very strict policy about what goes on their systems (at least they used to). This is geared more towards other government agencies and civilian contractors who connect to the various military networks.

Ah, I see.

Platapus · 07-02-17, 09:07 AM

And what will the economic effect be when the Russians and perhaps other countries decide not to use US software?

Of course, US companies would never put back-door entries for the US government in any of their software. That would be wrong.

MaDef · 07-02-17, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Platapus

And what will the economic effect be when the Russians and perhaps other countries decide not to use US software?

Of course, US companies would never put back-door entries for the US government in any of their software. That would be wrong.

nothing major, think about it, the defense department & the Government already have these types of restrictions in place and always have, somebody is looking to drive their agenda in a certain direction.

Rockstar · 07-02-17, 09:24 AM

Kaspersky has for several years now been attempting to sell his software to the U.S. government. But Im fairly certain there has always been a ban on foreign design software on U.S. government systems. I think this so called proposal is not about removing said software from government systems or a new ban of anything but just to generate political hay. To get you to jump on the band wagon, to think a certain way about Kaspersky software and Russia.

IMO the news we see now is tailored for public consumption, associating Kaspersky with Putin. Which is going to scare a lot of Americans into ditching Kaspersky for something more American like Prism... err I mean McAfee. In turn it might hurt the Russian economy even more and hopefully get Putin out.

The only way to safeguard your personal information on the internet is dont log on to it. If everyone did that then there truley would be far reaching implications.

Btw Comrade whats up with the Russian colors on Subsim?

. You speaky da Rusky?

Gargamel · 07-02-17, 12:34 PM

Kaspersky is one of the leaders in anti virus tech. They have always made IMO a quality product and a smooth interface. One feature was an online scanner, meaning I could run a virus scan just from visiting a webpage. Was nice when there were a rash of viruses going around that could suppress local AV software.

But I think focusing on strictly Russia might be the wrong path. If you want to secure your software, use only domestic packages. And, of course, this brings with a host of problems.

Rockstar · 07-02-17, 08:37 AM

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Skybird Soaring Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: the mental asylum named Germany Posts: 42,679 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Of course you do not want a Russian cmpany providing software for your vital data infrastructure in the military. You also do not want Chinese chips in your weapons, may they be explcitly or implcitly included. I add you also do not want Apple, Google and Microsoft providing you with software and operation systems in your critical infrastructure. Not as a non-American and not as an American party. Nor do you want to use business company services falling under American legislation and having their servers in the US or in states where the US have easy access. China has forced Microsoft that if they want to keep their access to the Chinese market they had to open their secret Windows source code so that the Chinese can pick Windows apart and extract those parts making Windows prone to American attacks. You get a heavily Chinese-modified Windows only in China, legally. More convincing it would have been from their POV if they would ban American software completely. Russian state and military still order and buy increasing numbers of mechanical type writers since some years. Westerners laughed about this and called it paranoia at first. Now, some years later, the laughing has fallen silent. __________________ If you feel nuts, consult an expert.

07-02-17, 09:07 AM	#6
Platapus Fleet Admiral Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 19,382 Downloads: 63 Uploads: 0	And what will the economic effect be when the Russians and perhaps other countries decide not to use US software? Of course, US companies would never put back-door entries for the US government in any of their software. That would be wrong. __________________ abusus non tollit usum - A right should NOT be withheld from people on the basis that some tend to abuse that right.

07-02-17, 09:24 AM	#8
Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Kaspersky has for several years now been attempting to sell his software to the U.S. government. But Im fairly certain there has always been a ban on foreign design software on U.S. government systems. I think this so called proposal is not about removing said software from government systems or a new ban of anything but just to generate political hay. To get you to jump on the band wagon, to think a certain way about Kaspersky software and Russia. IMO the news we see now is tailored for public consumption, associating Kaspersky with Putin. Which is going to scare a lot of Americans into ditching Kaspersky for something more American like Prism... err I mean McAfee. In turn it might hurt the Russian economy even more and hopefully get Putin out. The only way to safeguard your personal information on the internet is dont log on to it. If everyone did that then there truley would be far reaching implications. Btw Comrade whats up with the Russian colors on Subsim? . You speaky da Rusky? Last edited by Rockstar; 07-02-17 at 02:50 PM.

07-02-17, 12:34 PM	#9
Gargamel Lucky Sailor Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Rome Posts: 4,273 Downloads: 81 Uploads: 0	Kaspersky is one of the leaders in anti virus tech. They have always made IMO a quality product and a smooth interface. One feature was an online scanner, meaning I could run a virus scan just from visiting a webpage. Was nice when there were a rash of viruses going around that could suppress local AV software. But I think focusing on strictly Russia might be the wrong path. If you want to secure your software, use only domestic packages. And, of course, this brings with a host of problems. __________________ Luck is a residue of Design.

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Rockstar In the Brig Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Zendia Bar & Grill Posts: 12,614 Downloads: 10 Uploads: 0	Whats next?