S-Class: No AA gun?

jlacy94 · 03-15-17, 11:08 PM

Hi,
I noticed the S class boats are the only ones without an AA gun. I read somewhere, however, that they were equipped with one .50 caliber machine gun for AA defense. Is there a file I can edit to equip the S18 or S42 boats with a machine gun?

Sniper297 · 03-15-17, 11:43 PM

Yep. Silent Hunter 4 Wolves of the Pacific\Data\UPCData\UPCUnitsData

Two files;

UpgradePacks.upc
UnitParts4SClass.upc

Both are text files, can be edited with notepad.

What I would suggest is change the first part of the S class file;

ID= SClassConning1
Type= SConningTower1

Change that to;

ID= SClassConning3
Type= SConningTower3

So you have the late war tower at the beginning.

I haven't tinkered with this yet, but the upgrade pack slot in mine shows NULL NULL NULL indicating the 50 cal and 20mm are available any date.

jlacy94 · 03-16-17, 12:12 AM

Edited the file as instructed, still not showing an upgrade slot for AA gun. There must be something else we're missing.

Sniper297 · 03-16-17, 01:00 AM

Hmm, I just tried it and got an S boat hull with no conning tower at all.

I'll be back.

propbeanie · 03-16-17, 05:48 AM

What mods have you got loaded, if any, jlacy94?

Rockin Robbins · 03-16-17, 06:43 AM

What you have is the fantasy of just about every sub skipper of the war: a submarine with no deck gun. The things were useless except for hanging laundry on. In practice they were more hazardous to the submarine and its crew than the enemy's guns. The very first man killed on an American sub during the war was manning the stupid thing when the enemy opened up and disassembled the poor guy who shouldn't have been there anyway. More effective than the deck gun was pointing your finger at the enemy and yelling "Bang! Bang!"

Deck guns subtracted underwater speed and contributed to louder submerged travel, making the submarine more detectable to enemy sonar. Cdr Dealey of the USS Harder, when asked whether he wanted his deck gun mounted fore or aft said "I don't care which, so long as it's on wheels so I can roll it overboard."

So let's check my FOTRSU S-boat and see if I have a deck gun. Never use the thing and I don't even know if I have one. Hmmmmmm.....

Crap! There it is, silhouetted against the control tower. Roll it overboard, boys!

03-15-17, 11:08 PM	#1
jlacy94 Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 7 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 0	S-Class: No AA gun? Hi, I noticed the S class boats are the only ones without an AA gun. I read somewhere, however, that they were equipped with one .50 caliber machine gun for AA defense. Is there a file I can edit to equip the S18 or S42 boats with a machine gun?

03-16-17, 05:48 AM	#5
propbeanie CTD - it's not just a job Join Date: May 2016 Location: One hour from Music City USA! Posts: 9,810 Downloads: 444 Uploads: 2	What mods have you got loaded, if any, jlacy94? __________________ "...and bollocks to the naysayer/s" - Jimbuna

03-16-17, 06:43 AM	#6
Rockin Robbins Navy Seal Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: DeLand, FL Posts: 8,899 Downloads: 135 Uploads: 52	What you have is the fantasy of just about every sub skipper of the war: a submarine with no deck gun. The things were useless except for hanging laundry on. In practice they were more hazardous to the submarine and its crew than the enemy's guns. The very first man killed on an American sub during the war was manning the stupid thing when the enemy opened up and disassembled the poor guy who shouldn't have been there anyway. More effective than the deck gun was pointing your finger at the enemy and yelling "Bang! Bang!" Deck guns subtracted underwater speed and contributed to louder submerged travel, making the submarine more detectable to enemy sonar. Cdr Dealey of the USS Harder, when asked whether he wanted his deck gun mounted fore or aft said "I don't care which, so long as it's on wheels so I can roll it overboard." So let's check my FOTRSU S-boat and see if I have a deck gun. Never use the thing and I don't even know if I have one. Hmmmmmm..... Crap! There it is, silhouetted against the control tower. Roll it overboard, boys! __________________ Sub Skipper's Bag of Tricks, Slightly Subnuclear Mk 14 & Cutie, Slightly Subnuclear Deck Gun, EZPlot 2.0, TMOPlot, TMOKeys, SH4CMS

03-15-17, 11:43 PM	#2
Sniper297 The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia Shipyard Brig Posts: 1,386 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 19	Yep. Silent Hunter 4 Wolves of the Pacific\Data\UPCData\UPCUnitsData Two files; UpgradePacks.upc UnitParts4SClass.upc Both are text files, can be edited with notepad. What I would suggest is change the first part of the S class file; ID= SClassConning1 Type= SConningTower1 Change that to; ID= SClassConning3 Type= SConningTower3 So you have the late war tower at the beginning. I haven't tinkered with this yet, but the upgrade pack slot in mine shows NULL NULL NULL indicating the 50 cal and 20mm are available any date.

03-16-17, 12:12 AM	#3
jlacy94 Swabbie Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: San Jose, California Posts: 7 Downloads: 53 Uploads: 0	Edited the file as instructed, still not showing an upgrade slot for AA gun. There must be something else we're missing.

03-16-17, 01:00 AM	#4
Sniper297 The Old Man Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Philadelphia Shipyard Brig Posts: 1,386 Downloads: 160 Uploads: 19	Hmm, I just tried it and got an S boat hull with no conning tower at all. I'll be back.