Is there a way to force units to ONLY use depth charges?

artao · 11-16-16, 05:35 PM

I'm making a scenario in which i don't want "enemy" units to use anything but depth charges against the player, even if they have other weapons available. i.e. - "semi-neutral" surface craft trying to drive the player out of Soviet territorial waters, without actually killing the player.
Is there a way to do this?
I'm still trying to figure out doctrine and script languages.

Thanks!

p7p8 · 11-17-16, 10:34 AM

You should do it by script:

FPSchazly · 11-18-16, 10:25 AM

I am most definitely a newbie map maker, but you may want to have the enemy ships keep peacetime ROE but of course be on an adversarial Side to the player. Keeping the peacetime ROE I believe would make it so the ships will only engage with depth charges via the scripting. If they have wartime ROE, they may take the initiative and start engaging with anything.

Also, can these boats sink the player (re: do you want these boats to be able to) or is this just for "effect"?

artao · 11-18-16, 04:13 PM

Thanks guys.
Learning the mission editor sure is an exercise in experimentation.

Using depth charges could inherently sink a sub, sure. But I don't want it to be a "deliberate" act of sinking.

I think it's gonna take me awhile to get this mission playable. I may be biting off more than I can chew for a first foray into mission creation. Perhaps I should step back and make one or two simpler missions.

Stewy1 · 11-20-16, 04:23 AM

I think, if I understand you right, you could just set up a trigger where if the frigate detects the submarine, you could play a depth-charge sound and then you won't be damaged (but you're still 'caught')

I sometimes include a message with this in the trigger like "XO: Conn, XO. We've been counter-detected."

Also, if you Google the International Code of Signals (1969) revised 2003 book, page 152 has the message procedure for the detection of US warships (submarines?) in Russian waters. That's fun to 'use' in radio messages upon counter-detection too!

It's also fun to 'escalate' the scenario if you're counter-detected - say, use a trigger to 50/50 whether the ROE is war/peace, set roe to war 30 minutes after detection, launch ASW aircraft to area after detection, etc.

Cybermat47 · 11-20-16, 07:06 AM

Wait, ships in DW have depth charges? I though they'd been phased out completely by the 1980s.

artao · 11-20-16, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Stewy1

Also, if you Google the International Code of Signals (1969) revised 2003 book, page 152 has the message procedure for the detection of US warships (submarines?) in Russian waters. That's fun to 'use' in radio messages upon counter-detection too!

It's also fun to 'escalate' the scenario if you're counter-detected - say, use a trigger to 50/50 whether the ROE is war/peace, set roe to war 30 minutes after detection, launch ASW aircraft to area after detection, etc.

HEY!! That's pretty cool. Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cybermat47

Wait, ships in DW have depth charges? I though they'd been phased out completely by the 1980s.

There are depth charges, but I'm not entirely sure what all ships/countries use them. A quick look shows me that at least the Grisha DDs have them.

11-16-16, 05:35 PM	#1
artao Officer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 238 Downloads: 144 Uploads: 0	Is there a way to force units to ONLY use depth charges? I'm making a scenario in which i don't want "enemy" units to use anything but depth charges against the player, even if they have other weapons available. i.e. - "semi-neutral" surface craft trying to drive the player out of Soviet territorial waters, without actually killing the player. Is there a way to do this? I'm still trying to figure out doctrine and script languages. Thanks! __________________ l8r, artao

11-18-16, 10:25 AM	#3
FPSchazly Good Hunting! Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Beantown Posts: 776 Downloads: 15 Uploads: 1	I am most definitely a newbie map maker, but you may want to have the enemy ships keep peacetime ROE but of course be on an adversarial Side to the player. Keeping the peacetime ROE I believe would make it so the ships will only engage with depth charges via the scripting. If they have wartime ROE, they may take the initiative and start engaging with anything. Also, can these boats sink the player (re: do you want these boats to be able to) or is this just for "effect"? __________________ Your friendly neighborhood modern submarine YouTuber. My videos: Exclusive Look at Modern Naval Warfare! Dangerous Waters Liu Doctrine (LwAmi Learn to play Dangerous Waters

11-18-16, 04:13 PM	#4
artao Officer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 238 Downloads: 144 Uploads: 0	Thanks guys. Learning the mission editor sure is an exercise in experimentation. Using depth charges could inherently sink a sub, sure. But I don't want it to be a "deliberate" act of sinking. I think it's gonna take me awhile to get this mission playable. I may be biting off more than I can chew for a first foray into mission creation. Perhaps I should step back and make one or two simpler missions. __________________ l8r, artao

11-20-16, 07:06 AM	#6
Cybermat47 Willing Webfooted Beast Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Australia Posts: 5,408 Downloads: 300 Uploads: 23	Wait, ships in DW have depth charges? I though they'd been phased out completely by the 1980s. __________________ Historical TWoS Gameplay Guide: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?p=2572620 Historical FotRSU Gameplay Guide: https://www.subsim.com/radioroom/sho....php?p=2713394

11-17-16, 10:34 AM	#2
p7p8 Seasoned Skipper Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 742 Downloads: 136 Uploads: 6	You should do it by script:

11-20-16, 04:23 AM	#5
Stewy1 Girt by Sea Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Red Route 1 Posts: 391 Downloads: 176 Uploads: 40	I think, if I understand you right, you could just set up a trigger where if the frigate detects the submarine, you could play a depth-charge sound and then you won't be damaged (but you're still 'caught') I sometimes include a message with this in the trigger like "XO: Conn, XO. We've been counter-detected." Also, if you Google the International Code of Signals (1969) revised 2003 book, page 152 has the message procedure for the detection of US warships (submarines?) in Russian waters. That's fun to 'use' in radio messages upon counter-detection too! It's also fun to 'escalate' the scenario if you're counter-detected - say, use a trigger to 50/50 whether the ROE is war/peace, set roe to war 30 minutes after detection, launch ASW aircraft to area after detection, etc.